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Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by jeofken »

howdydoo wrote: post #75
xrd wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how many times I need to repeat this FACT on this site, but socks are NOT immutable. How many holes do you have in your 7 year old socks? I'd wager a LOT. How many mismatched socks do you have in your drawer? I'd wager, AGAIN, a LOT. The only way to make this truly secure, is to have 2 USB thumb drives, plugged into a different side of the machine (god hope you have a machine with USB ports on both sides…

Socks are in fact immutable infrastructure. When your EC2 instance crashes, you shut it down and provision a new one. When your socks get holes, you throw them out and buy new ones. This isn't 2010 anymore, you really think people debug their servers and mend their socks?

Socks are cattle, not pets

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by yucky »

Zambyte wrote: post #128
shiado wrote: post #81

Has anybody ever thought of something like a real world NFT? Imagine if you took a bunch of dried plant pigments and mixed them with oil and smeared them onto a canvas. Because it is physical it couldn't be duplicated or double-spent and it has a simple materials-based minting cost. I don't think anybody has done this before and there is probably a large market for buying and selling something like this. These are ea…

This is not a good metaphor for NFTs. The content of any NFT can be perfectly duplicated by anyone. The only part of an NFT that matters is the signature. A better analogy would be musicians signing CDs / vinyls, sports players signing player cards / equipment, etc. People buying NFTs created by nobodies are simply getting scammed. The physical metaphor here would be like paying a random amateur sports player to sign…

I don't think this is the case with unlockable NFT's, is it? You can copy the "box" so to speak, but you can't see what's inside if you don't own it.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by [deleted] »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #64
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the opposite. Marriage is a legal contract that, among other things, bestows certain rights and obligations. There is a reason 'adultery' is something that counts as marital misconduct.

Uhhh.. obligations to sex? That is exactly what this analogy is saying. Its gross to assume that anyone owes you sex.

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Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by jbverschoor »

Johnie wrote: post #111
davesque wrote: post #73

> How do I pay with cryptocurrency? > Easy, you just need to convert it to USD first. > Is this for real? > Sure > Is this performance art? > Maybe? Love it. I think Roy's making a killing off this.

Cash is both ANONYMOUS and UNTRACKABLE. Bitcoin is only ANONYMOUS. Cash FTW!

No it’s not.. cash bills have tracking numbers on them.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by rfd4sgmk8u »

gcampos wrote: post #98
shiado wrote: post #81

Has anybody ever thought of something like a real world NFT? Imagine if you took a bunch of dried plant pigments and mixed them with oil and smeared them onto a canvas. Because it is physical it couldn't be duplicated or double-spent and it has a simple materials-based minting cost. I don't think anybody has done this before and there is probably a large market for buying and selling something like this. These are ea…

I got you fam: https://github.com/william-fields/witless#ntf-support

I like where the developer leaked the private key of the signing authority:

https://github.com/william-fields/witless/commit/dc4a429b721...

The problems with this 'witless' proposal is that we have no way of auditing the supply, and politicians will betray the trust of the users by debasing it. Also, we have no trust anchor with the 'official witless key', which presumably should be considered compromised in the above commit. It also seems to depend on the file hosting services of a large software company for distribution of its public keys.

The problem with these straw man arguments is they often miss the entire point of the technology, and folks read them and walk away without understand exactly the problems the parodied technology solves.

This does have some humorous points, but generally leaves the reader with a confused and incorrect view of how both the USD and cryptocurrencies work.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by gcampos »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #135
gcampos wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got you fam: https://github.com/william-fields/witless#ntf-support

I like where the developer leaked the private key of the signing authority: https://github.com/william-fields/witless/commit/dc4a429b721... The problems with this 'witless' proposal is that we have no way of auditing the supply, and politicians will betray the trust of the users by debasing it. Also, we have no trust anchor with the 'official witless key', which presumably should be considered compromised in the abov…

Check the name in the private key ;)

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by qayxc »

ForgotMyPwOops wrote: post #57
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, there is nuance. Still, legally speaking, who is exactly enforcing it? Opensea? MPAA? I get that is going to be a fun question to answer since you can technically sue for anything ( but its not a guarantee that a judge will throw it out if he/she sees something sufficiently in the 'wasting my time' category ).

Can the NFT be cryptographically verified to be authentic? If so then it should be as good as any other proof of purchase

> Can the NFT be cryptographically verified to be authentic?

No. Authenticity of the data is not part of the concept.

What would that even mean in the context of non-physical contracts? You can buy an experience as an NFT (i.e. dinner with a C-list celeb) and the NFT serves as nothing more than a receipt saying you purchased that experience. Doesn't have to be unique (several people could by the same), doesn't include any specific metadata relating to the buyer.

What kind of "cryptographic authenticity" would even apply in such case?

It gets worse with digital assets if all you get is an IPFS URI. The actual data can be removed or altered at any point without the NFT itself being affected in way. Unless the asset itself is stored in the blockchain (which is practically impossible for anything beyond thumbnail-sized images) there's nothing to validate on the BC besides the token itself.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by DanHulton »

gcampos wrote: post #60

In the same vein: https://github.com/william-fields/witless

I have also built a site designed to poke a bit of fun at the idea of artificial scarcity on the internet: https://ipaidthemost.com/

Came up with it before NFTs, but it's only more relevant these days.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by rfd4sgmk8u »

gcampos wrote: post #136
rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like where the developer leaked the private key of the signing authority: https://github.com/william-fields/witless/commit/dc4a429b721... The problems with this 'witless' proposal is that we have no way of auditing the supply, and politicians will betray the trust of the users by debasing it. Also, we have no trust anchor with the 'official witless key', which presumably should be considered compromised in the abov…

Check the name in the private key ;)

Ok, yeah I did think it was part of the joke.

Still tho, what is the point of this page? Is it trying to say 'you dont need a blockchain?' or 'this is a deliberately bad solution that is solved by a blockchain'?

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by kurthr »

Zambyte wrote: post #128
shiado wrote: post #81

Has anybody ever thought of something like a real world NFT? Imagine if you took a bunch of dried plant pigments and mixed them with oil and smeared them onto a canvas. Because it is physical it couldn't be duplicated or double-spent and it has a simple materials-based minting cost. I don't think anybody has done this before and there is probably a large market for buying and selling something like this. These are ea…

This is not a good metaphor for NFTs. The content of any NFT can be perfectly duplicated by anyone. The only part of an NFT that matters is the signature. A better analogy would be musicians signing CDs / vinyls, sports players signing player cards / equipment, etc. People buying NFTs created by nobodies are simply getting scammed. The physical metaphor here would be like paying a random amateur sports player to sign…

Yeah, but it could be a completely unique painting of a QR-code of the NFT... That way you couldn't just replicate the NFT on another chain!
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