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The state of external retina displays

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Re: The state of external retina displays

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A bit of offtopic: Mini LED screens honestly are disappointing for me to some degree. The blooming is a real thing and I can see it every time there is bright content on dark background. I do accept it because there is no other better option really. I can see this blooming both on MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max and on iPad Pro 12.9. It looks especially bad when bright contents moves slowly, you can see those backlight zones e…

Problem with OLED is the 240hz PWM, which is present in the AERO as well.

For instance, on my iPhone 13 Pro, I can see the on-off-on-off clearly once I’m below 20% brightness. The eye strain of oled is terribly annoying.

I agree with you on the blooming, but there are no options today that scratch all itches.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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post #82

A bit of offtopic: Mini LED screens honestly are disappointing for me to some degree. The blooming is a real thing and I can see it every time there is bright content on dark background. I do accept it because there is no other better option really. I can see this blooming both on MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max and on iPad Pro 12.9. It looks especially bad when bright contents moves slowly, you can see those backlight zones e…

These Apple displays were rumored to be microLED, and I was incredibly bummed to find out they’re just an iteration of regionally-backlit LCD’s. OLED is definitely the best option for contrast, and I’ve had no luck finding an OLED monitor that wouldn’t bankrupt me.

I bought a couple Dell U2720Q instead, and they’re great; until something more compelling is available.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-ultrasharp-27-4k-u...

Re: The state of external retina displays

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My utterly unrealistic dream is: now that the first batch of 5k iMacs is approaching “old age,” some business would start selling kits than had the tools and instructions necessary to gut old iMacs, and a new controller board that would convert the remaining screens to basic DisplayPort displays.

At $300 and around $500 for an old iMac on eBay, this could be somehow both more economical and likely more reliable than the displays currently on the market (see my other message in this thread). Also it’s just going to be a pity when those beautiful old computers start hitting the landfills.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Some work tools get treated like capital or heirloom and some get treated like consumables . Scissors or a hand plane are decent "heirloom" items. Potentially you can retire with the same one you started with, or pass them down. Electric drills start to lean toward consumable. Battery tech changes over the years and they do wear out in non-fixable ways. Screen and computer tech advances so fast that 5 years is a "goo…

8 years ago you had to pay $1k for a 1440p 27" sRGB IPS panel. 2 years ago I spent $800 on a 4k 27" 144 Hz monitor with >95% P3 coverage. Or another example: 8 years ago I spent $320 on a 1080p 27" (massive pixels) monitor with horrible color reproduction and contrast. 4 years ago I upgraded to a new monitor and for $300 I was able to get 4k 27" with >100% sRGB. And when you consider inflation, progress is even great…

GPU is a bad example. Models purchased in 2016 cost slightly more than that now, secondhand, after 5 years of usage.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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post #125

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It's really stupid to force Thunderbolt usage though when USB-C has an alt mode for DP directly.

The DP altmode didn’t provide enough bandwidth, which is why the best experience is over the Thunderbolt alternate mode. edit: you can in fact get HBR3 working, what's not working at full rate with DP instead of thunderbolt is the USB3 hub on the display.

Oh it does? Nice. Kinda expected Apple to go full asshole mode on that.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

8 years ago you had to pay $1k for a 1440p 27" sRGB IPS panel. 2 years ago I spent $800 on a 4k 27" 144 Hz monitor with >95% P3 coverage. Or another example: 8 years ago I spent $320 on a 1080p 27" (massive pixels) monitor with horrible color reproduction and contrast. 4 years ago I upgraded to a new monitor and for $300 I was able to get 4k 27" with >100% sRGB. And when you consider inflation, progress is even great…

GPU is a bad example. Models purchased in 2016 cost slightly more than that now, secondhand, after 5 years of usage.

If you take into account pandemic shortages / price inflation, of course.

But a current $500 (MSRP) GPU thoroughly spanks a 5 year old $500 GPU. Even my 2 year old Radeon 5700xt is feeling out of date.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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I bought two LG Ultrafine 5K displays in 2016 and they're still going strong. They're good — probably the best affordable retina monitor option available, but not perfect. For example, I wish I could daisy chain, and there are occasional ghosting when changing from a contrasty/bright screen to a dark screen. I also ran into problems this year with my MBP maxing out CPU when running both displays at once — after 5 years without problems. Switching to one display solves the issue.

If Apple released an affordable pro level display with reasonably good specs, I'd make the jump.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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How is the Ultrafine “unreliable”? What functionality would a monitor even have that could possibly break?

I’m not sure on others but for me it’s been issues when connecting the monitor to my laptop.

I bring my laptop in each morning and after I plug it into the monitor I have issues.

Often the monitor is not correctly identifying the MacBook and so it doesn’t correctly turn on even though my MacBook responds by moving everything across two screens. It can lead to 5-10 minutes of plugging and unplugging and switching the monitor on and off.

Not an experience anyone wants.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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post #138

I bought two LG Ultrafine 5K displays in 2016 and they're still going strong. They're good — probably the best affordable retina monitor option available, but not perfect. For example, I wish I could daisy chain, and there are occasional ghosting when changing from a contrasty/bright screen to a dark screen. I also ran into problems this year with my MBP maxing out CPU when running both displays at once — after 5 yea…

Could you link out to the specific model? Thx
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