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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by willcipriano »

junon wrote: post #124
willcipriano wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let them sue. I see the headline now, "Amazon sues status page website for accurately reporting on outages". Followed by lots of people hosting mirrors to stop.lying.cloud and saying things like "We are all stop.lying.cloud now"

This has nothing to do with the validity of the case, though. Just because it's a ridiculous court case doesn't mean it's not legally sound...

I have a legally sound case to divorce my wife (anyone does, you can divorce for no reason), however she need not worry as that would be colossally stupid on my part. The same goes here.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by junon »

willcipriano wrote: post #131
junon wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with the validity of the case, though. Just because it's a ridiculous court case doesn't mean it's not legally sound...

I have a legally sound case to divorce my wife (anyone does, you can divorce for no reason), however she need not worry as that would be colossally stupid on my part. The same goes here.

This is a reductio ad absurdum comparison.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by aledalgrande »

If you haven't seen yet, news is it was a power loss:

> 5:01 AM PST We can confirm a loss of power within a single data center within a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. This is affecting availability and connectivity to EC2 instances that are part of the affected data center within the affected Availability Zone. We are also experiencing elevated RunInstance API error rates for launches within the affected Availability Zone. Connectivity and power to other data centers within the affected Availability Zone, or other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue, but we would recommend failing away from the affected Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) if you are able to do so. We continue to work to address the issue and restore power within the affected data center.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by dijit »

MatteoFrigo wrote: post #70
hnarn wrote: post #14

Is there a history of AWS downtimes available somewhere? This makes what, three times in as many months? edit: The question isn't necessarily AWS specific, just any data on amount of downtime per cloud provider on a timeline would be nice.

I don't know about AWS, but both Google Cloud and Oracle Cloud maintain at least a high level history of past outages. See https://status.cloud.google.com/summary and https://ocistatus.oraclecloud.com/history

Given the hilariously awful reputation of the AWS status page I would hazard a guess that such a page would also be incredibly inaccurate.

If you can’t even admit you’re having an issue how can you keep an accurate record?

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by yholio »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #91
taspeotis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away. (Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

Fair use is not a right. It’s a defense . When you are sued for copyright infringement, you have to argue that you’re doing it in fair use. It’s not the “get out of jail free” card people think it is.

> It’s a defense.

That's warped view of the world. A corporation can always take you to court and harass the crap out of you, the court will side with your defense because you were right and claimant was wrong, you had the right to do what you did.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by amelius »

IceWreck wrote: post #101
BossingAround wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does your server at home handle similar traffic to that of US-East-1 since you're comparing uptime? Simiarly, my laptop, if I keep it plugged in the wall, and enable httpd on localhost, will surely have better uptime than any of the top clouds. I'd bet that it'd have 100% uptime if I plugged in a UPS and cared for traffic on my local network only.

No but I access my home-server remotely from my university all the time and it hasn't gone down once. Better uptime than paying for EC2 on AWS US-East-1. Obviously this approach isn't scalable but it serves me well.

> Obviously this approach isn't scalable but it serves me well.

It's perfectly scalable. Just give everybody their own home server.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by dijit »

anshumankmr wrote: post #102

If AWS, GCP and Azure go down, we will be back in the stone ages, right?

The only stuff that will work will probably depend on things in AWS in some form.

That, or people never took the “if AWS goes down then lots of people will have a problem, so we’ll be fine” line seriously; there are few such cases.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by alecbz »

api wrote: post #99
throwaway81523 wrote: post #27

Ok, enough AWS outages to say I'm tired of hearing about low end stuff being flaky.

Nobody ever got fired for using AWS.

I wonder to what extent this actually becomes less of a problem the more people use AWS. At this point AWS being down just feels like "the internet is down", it's hard for customers to be too mad at any company being down when all their competitors are too.

Though I guess there's still probably just lost revenue that could be captured by having better uptime, even if your competitors are down.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by BossingAround »

loopdoend wrote: post #97
BossingAround wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does your server at home handle similar traffic to that of US-East-1 since you're comparing uptime? Simiarly, my laptop, if I keep it plugged in the wall, and enable httpd on localhost, will surely have better uptime than any of the top clouds. I'd bet that it'd have 100% uptime if I plugged in a UPS and cared for traffic on my local network only.

Your home ISP has 100% uptime? That's incredible.

I mentioned local network, didn't I...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by christophilus »

henriquez wrote: post #52
throwaway81523 wrote: post #27

Ok, enough AWS outages to say I'm tired of hearing about low end stuff being flaky.

Heroku isn’t “low end,” it’s a PaaS built on top of AWS. So you’re really just hearing about another AWS outage lol

They're not saying Heroku is low end. They're saying, "I'm tired of hearing that it's irresponsible to run your own servers."

At least, that's what I understood.

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