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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This publication is independent and not run by the school.

Right, but surely they have resources at the school if they need technical assistance. It's a university. Just find any CS major and they'll tell you how to set up a website.

It's not the technical assistance needed it's the legal review. Go get that from a CS major.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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This does kind of raise an interesting question. Where do you draw the line between disagreeing and harassing? If a group follows around a student it seems like harassment, but if they follow around a politician it would likely be called a protest. What if the group was following a professor? Or the president of the university? It seems like it's a matter of how much power the person holds if it is a protest or not,…

Disagreement is basic. See something, say something. Protesting is relevant when it occurs towards someone holding an office or a public role/responsibility (even if temporary). Protesting someone repeatedly or in their private capacity (which is the case for any student at the university): that becomes harassment. Threatening: that's a whole other level.

>Threatening: that's a whole other level.

And narcing on someone in the hope that whoever you narc'd to then goes on to threaten that person's family or friends elsewhere is another several levels beyond that.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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The brainwashing must be strong for students thousands of miles away from China in the middle of nowhere Indiana for them to feel the need to snitch on dissenters. Or, more likely, they were threatened before they left China that they would be watched while abroad.

I get leery of claiming "brainwashing" because I know some people in the US who would probably do the same thing... no threats or direct government intervention necessary. For some people it seems our natural predilection for tribalism only needs a little push to get there.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

People of the EU might want to seriously reconsider the GDPR after seeing its affects such as this.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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post #109
post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

This website is an independent publication about Purdue, not Purdue itself. If you're small and running ads, I'm pretty sure you don't want to risk dealing with the significant legal pitfalls of GDPR. They EU isn't your audience, and lawyers that confirm you're in compliance (or not) are expensive.

> They EU isn't your audience, and lawyers that confirm you're in compliance (or not) are expensive.

The GDPR is one of the easiest pieces of legislation I've ever read. And the answer is: no, basically nobody is in compliance.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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What you get in the EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111.

It's not legal reasons it's laziness. GDPR compliance really doesn't cost a lot despite what a lot of legal shills spout...

GDPR is a hundred articles of legalese, and to understand what it means to be compliant you probably need an understanding of EU legal context as well. Services of people who can do that do cost a lot.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU. Bad assumption. Maybe an unpopular fact, but many sites simply block EU access to avoid potential legal pitfalls of navigating foreign laws. Getting the site compliant would require review from legal teams and work from (likely contracted) web developers, which is almost certainly not in the budget for a side site li…

This is a completely backwards way of looking at it. If you don't have the budget, create a static website and throw it behind github pages or s3 or whatever. An entire university with a school of computer science cannot figure out some standard way of doing this ?

This is an independent website, not part of the official University budget.

You can’t just round up some CS students and have them produce a website compliant with international law for free.

This involves legal teams, contracted developers, and constrained budgets that are already stretched thin on operating in their core business. It’s not reasonable to demand they invest tens of thousands of dollars (or demand equivalent free labor from CS students and lawyers) to serve a population that almost never visits the site.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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post #135
post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

People of the EU might want to seriously reconsider the GDPR after seeing its affects such as this.

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