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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by serf »

smoldesu wrote: post #108
willis936 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.

Then why wait? Programs like Photoshop and Ableton Live work just fine through WINE. I have a hard time imagining what kind of software you can't replace on modern Linux...

while these can be made to work .. Fusion360/SolidWorks/CATIA/Siemens NX are notoriously hard to make work, and when they do the fixes usually only last a single patch; and these softwares (aside from SolidWorks) are all always-connected and auto-updating.

and unfortunately a lot of that software is simply career-making.

It's simply an arms-race that can't be won from the consumer perspective without applying adequate pressure to the companies to try and facilitate a legitimate release.

it's hard to run any kind of business software to run any kind of business when it's in the back of your mind whether or not Autodesk has pushed an update to break everything by the time you need to use the software and have actual clients and money waiting for the work.

I'd drop all my windows machines in a heart beat if those companies would consider the GNU/Linux market, but i'm not really holding my breath -- they make a ton of money on their captive audience.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by cedricd »

iso1631 wrote: post #126
InitialLastName wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That gives me four years for the tools that lock me to Windows to decide to port to literally any other OS.

Saw people say the same with XP into Vista. The relationship people seem to have with windows is like someone trapped in an abusive relationship. On the other hand from what I read, XP - good Vista - Bad 7 - good 8 - bad 10 - good 11 - bad I don't have any experience in any of those so I'm not how true it is, but if it is, I guess hope that 12 will be out by EOL of 10?

I've run all of them over the years (progressively upgrading like a good computer user). It's not even subtle. The good / bad dynamic is drastic.

And each 'bad' always brings to it a horrible UI change. Vista brought the window manager and those weird transparent windows and was generally ugly and buggy. Win 7 cleaned up the UI and made it flatter and simpler.

8 brought a full-screen start menu (!!). 10 went back to a 7-esque vibe (mostly).

11 is where we are.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by Dylan16807 »

bachmeier wrote: post #106
nsxwolf wrote: post #87

Didn't they lose a pretty big antitrust lawsuit over this a couple decades ago? Has the regulatory landscape changed to the point that they think they can just start this right up again? Or is it more, there's no way anyone could believe a Microsoft browser could dominate anymore?

Microsoft is no longer a monopolist. The world has changed dramatically since 1995-1997.

They have 75% of desktop/laptop OS market share. That's plenty.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by GordonS »

jccalhoun wrote: post #114
cronix wrote: post #22

So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

I updated to 11 on my laptop but kept 10 on my main machine. I see zero reason to update my main computer to 11. I was willing to give centered start button a try but the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker. If I have two firefox windows open I want to know it and to be able to pick which one I want without having to hover my mouse over the icon for a second while th…

> the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker

Ach, that's a deal breaker for me too - it's one of the first things I disable on a new Win10 install.

I didn't know about this, so thanks for giving me another reason to stick with 10!

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Post by mediocregopher »

westpfelia wrote: post #129
scruple wrote: post #109

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Thankfully we have options. I'm planning on moving my main desktop to Arch over my Christmas break from work. It's been a while since I ran Linux as my main desktop, my only complaints have been around gaming performance. I have a friend who plays the same games as I do and he's got everything working on his Arch install. That's really the only thing that holds me on Windows and if it's as smooth of a transition as I…

Check out https://www.protondb.com The only games that I really ever struggle with are ones that have anticheat. And EasyAntiCheat is going linux friendly so something like 95 of the top 100 games on steam will either work natively or via proton. And with Valve pushing the SteamDeck is see that number going to 100 soon.

Steam on linux will automatically pull in protondb profiles for your games, so you probably don't even need to explicitly "check out" protondb at this point. Most games will "just work", with the exception of big AAA games with picky anti-cheat engines.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by rbreaves »

cronix wrote: post #22

So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

I have 1 reason. ConPTY - it simply works better on Windows 11. VSCode actually respects mouse support under 11 w/ POSIX compliant terminals - but not under 10. That is it, and for RDP but 10 did equally well with RDP, except for the ConPTY support being broken.

So all in all the main reason I use 11 is for better mouse support in terminals that finally puts Windows on the same playing level as macOS or Linux for me. I still hate the OS, but at least it is usable after countless hours of doing other fixes.

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