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Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

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Post by occoder »

danielrhodes wrote: post #22

I love Cloudflare, but these Image products are a black mark on their reputation. Every point the author says is 100% correct. I'll add one more point, which ended up making it a total non-starter: you can't import lots of images because their rate limits are so pernicious. If you have tens of thousands or millions of images, keeping within their single digit per second rate limit, which appears to be totally non-neg…

> I love Cloudflare

Just a perspective from a user point of view, but I hate Cloudflare. All I remember about them is staring at their DDoS protection page for multiple seconds before a site's content loads.

EDIT: I'd argue that DDoS protection should be provided on the network level, not on the application level by some Javascript on a page. So yes I do hate Cloudflare for providing that service.

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#132

Post by selcuka »

occoder wrote: post #131
danielrhodes wrote: post #22

I love Cloudflare, but these Image products are a black mark on their reputation. Every point the author says is 100% correct. I'll add one more point, which ended up making it a total non-starter: you can't import lots of images because their rate limits are so pernicious. If you have tens of thousands or millions of images, keeping within their single digit per second rate limit, which appears to be totally non-neg…

> I love Cloudflare Just a perspective from a user point of view, but I hate Cloudflare. All I remember about them is staring at their DDoS protection page for multiple seconds before a site's content loads. EDIT: I'd argue that DDoS protection should be provided on the network level, not on the application level by some Javascript on a page. So yes I do hate Cloudflare for providing that service.

The site owner can enable or disable that feature, so it's actually the owner you should be hating.

Or do you hate CloudFlare for offering such a (optional) feature?

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#133

Post by nsotelo »

occoder wrote: post #131
danielrhodes wrote: post #22

I love Cloudflare, but these Image products are a black mark on their reputation. Every point the author says is 100% correct. I'll add one more point, which ended up making it a total non-starter: you can't import lots of images because their rate limits are so pernicious. If you have tens of thousands or millions of images, keeping within their single digit per second rate limit, which appears to be totally non-neg…

> I love Cloudflare Just a perspective from a user point of view, but I hate Cloudflare. All I remember about them is staring at their DDoS protection page for multiple seconds before a site's content loads. EDIT: I'd argue that DDoS protection should be provided on the network level, not on the application level by some Javascript on a page. So yes I do hate Cloudflare for providing that service.

I direct my hate towards those who make this necessary.

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#134

Post by red0point »

tekudiv wrote: post #126

I hear you Daniel. We have built a no nonsense image (and video) optimization service that addresses all of the issues and does more. #1. Simple pricing [1]. We only charge for optimize bandwidth out. No other charge. #2. Complete analytics [2] on number of images served, bandwidth usage, response times, formats of images served etc. #3. You keep original images in your own storage [3]. We only cache it the first tim…

Hi, fantastic product! It seems that you also do video transcoding - how are the limits there? I can't find explicit info alluding to video in your pricing page.

Thanks!

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#135

Post by youngtaff »

tgtweak wrote: post #83

Cloudinary is really a frontrunner in this. Cloudflare should have bought them out vs try to build something that they clearly aren't equipped to do.

CDN's should eat most of Cloudinary's market…

Cloudinary has two parts - a Digital Asset Manager for storing content - an service for optimising / resising images (and video) that then uses Cloudflare, Fastly etc as a CDN

Akamai, Cloudflare, Fastly all already have image optimisation services, so if you're using them already why use Cloudinary.

The DAM piece is more of an issue as most CMSs aren't great on the asset management front but looking at commerce etc platforms they're getting better

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

johnebgd wrote: post #30

Cloudflare Pages has a show stoping bug at the moment. Link a repo from GitHub then change the name of your GitHub repo and the pages breaks but won't let you relink your Github repo anywhere. I opened a ticket with support. I have gotten no where in two months (Opened on October 7th 2021). We ended up switching to Netlify that has a more mature product. In case someone from Cloudflare cares to investigate this is re…

Has Cloudflare's 25MB limit for Pages affected you in any manner? I wonder whether it's set purely to force the users to use Cloudflare Images.

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#137

Post by 59nadir »

Does Cloudflare just write blog post upon blog post shitting on other companies, or are these examples just coming up now because when it rains it pours? These seem like embarrassing posts to have highlighted as well; the fake benchmark one and this hypocritical egress one.

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#138

Post by patrec »

nsotelo wrote: post #133
occoder wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love Cloudflare Just a perspective from a user point of view, but I hate Cloudflare. All I remember about them is staring at their DDoS protection page for multiple seconds before a site's content loads. EDIT: I'd argue that DDoS protection should be provided on the network level, not on the application level by some Javascript on a page. So yes I do hate Cloudflare for providing that service.

I direct my hate towards those who make this necessary.

I’ve long taken Cloudflare to task for granting DDoS protection for countless DDoS-for-hire services, to no avail. I’ve maintained that Cloudflare has a blatant conflict of interest here, and that the DDoS-for-hire industry would quickly blast itself into oblivion because the proprietors of these attack services like nothing more than to turn their attack cannons on each other. Cloudflare has steadfastly maintained that picking and choosing who gets to use their network is a slippery slope that it will not venture toward.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/spreading-the-ddos-disea...

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#139

Post by tekudiv »

red0point wrote: post #134
tekudiv wrote: post #126

I hear you Daniel. We have built a no nonsense image (and video) optimization service that addresses all of the issues and does more. #1. Simple pricing [1]. We only charge for optimize bandwidth out. No other charge. #2. Complete analytics [2] on number of images served, bandwidth usage, response times, formats of images served etc. #3. You keep original images in your own storage [3]. We only cache it the first tim…

Hi, fantastic product! It seems that you also do video transcoding - how are the limits there? I can't find explicit info alluding to video in your pricing page. Thanks!

Hi, Thanks for checking out. We are planning to launch new pricing for video around mid December. Ping me over support chat and I will give you early access.

Re: Issues with Cloudflare Images

#140

Post by porker »

jbergstroem wrote: post #107
fnord123 wrote: post #35

For anyone looking for an alternative, https://imgproxy.net/ works v. well.

Yes, by far my top choice in OSS land for image manipulation. You would probably want to couple it with a edge worker to do things like accept handling (what format to return for the same url), whitelisting formats and so on. I wrote a pretty comprehensive cloudflare worker for this years ago I should look at open sourcing..

Please do open source it!
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