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Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

#131
I am more than ready to degoogle myself, if only my pinephone were fully functional :/. I need a phone that can support ANY OS of my choosing, not the one the vendor provides/allows, I am a paying google customer, drive and youtube, the former mostly due to the music, I guess its time to go back to the good old days. ARRGH!!! ;)

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

#132
Why not make this an opt-in feature? That way, big media companies with a YouTube presence who constantly have often post videos with high dislike ratios can hide the fact (although, we'll know this because of the hidden dislikes).

It's quite annoying when I'm looking at neutral, nonpolitical content, and I can't get a sense of whether or not other viewers hate it. I look at a decent amount of tutorial content for various things, and the like-dislike ratio is fairly indicative of whether or not the content is wrong or if I should even continue watching it.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The generalization of the premise of Bittorrent to easy file hosting is IPFS, and there in fact are IPFS hosting providers (and decentralized protocols for such, including Filecoin).

When the best example of something is a coin, then I'm not really impressed as a file store/share platform.

Filecoin is only for paying others to host your content; you can host it yourself (as I do) or on a VPS and ignore Filecoin, and IPFS still works great.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

#135
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not related to the dislike feature in particular, but Youtube is definitely losing the next generation of creators. Plenty of people are using TikTok as their main platform nowadays, as it has bigger reach for their markets.

TikTok is targeting a different type of content, there is no competition with YouTube as we know it, which is videos longer than 10 minutes.

> TikTok is targeting a different type of content, there is no competition with YouTube

This is not a logical conclusion.

Twitter is different to blogging (also shorter) it has killed a lot of the blogging market.

In fact, a lot of Youtube is too long, as the content producers chase the ad revenue.

Logically things will continue and everything will go to smaller chunks.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

#136

I really hope this backfires spectacularly on YouTube and the zealots who pushed for this change are held professionally accountable. I already click on fewer videos in search results and recommendations because I can no longer gauge how worthwhile they are to try and watch. The end result? I'm sticking to my current channels. I can't be alone and knowing that YouTube takes recommended content so seriously, I have to…

From my experience the ones pushing for these ideas are the fresh grad PMs trying to do something big for "perf". The whole platform feels like Waymo, driverless.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube now has “shorts” but it’s definitely not the same since they aren’t able to emulate the TikTok culture.

Same thing as Facebook/Instagram Reels, another attempt to blatantly clone a rival platform.

Like TikTok cloning Vine? :)

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

#139
post #81

Hacker News has a similar problem with comments: net_votes = up_votes - down_votes You need at least two of the above variables to get an idea of both the direction and magnitude of the voting. Hacker News provides only one: net_votes. YouTube used to provide up_votes and down_votes, effectively providing all three. Now YouTube has reduced its information to up_votes, so they're now down to one variable in the equati…

Moderation here is quite opionated, isn't it? I would guess that it's a very conscious choice to not show votes or downvotes, since it makes commenter interaction even more contentious. I like it the way it is.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #115
post #81

Hacker News has a similar problem with comments: net_votes = up_votes - down_votes You need at least two of the above variables to get an idea of both the direction and magnitude of the voting. Hacker News provides only one: net_votes. YouTube used to provide up_votes and down_votes, effectively providing all three. Now YouTube has reduced its information to up_votes, so they're now down to one variable in the equati…

It's very interesting to ask what's gained by seeing downvotes in addition to upvotes, and whether that differs based on whether the content is video or commentary. HN comments can still be downvoted (if you have enough karma) so arguably you can still get signal quality from the sum of votes. Especially since in most cases, you can simply comment instead of downvote.

> HN comments can still be downvoted (if you have enough karma) so arguably you can still get signal quality from the sum of votes.

Downvotes on HN comments aren't a pure quality signal. HN's culture is that downvoting something just because you disagree with it is perfectly cromulent behaviour, as established by PG himself:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of that decision, but I didn't start this site.

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