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Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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So they are charging people to remove ads so that the content creator doesn't get any ad revenue from their views? So ethical.

The vast majority of people posting to YouTube make nothing from it.

It might be unethical if they were marketing it solely as a way to avoid ads but there are a wealth of benefits to using it. YouTube in a browser on iOS is a nightmare to use and I suspect that they don't fix the many issues because they want you to use their app. This extension removes those issues.

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To quote Stephen Fry, moral relativism is just another way of saying "thinking". Morals can come from culture, they can come from religion, or they can come from individual contemplation. Morals are axioms. The one thing we can say for sure about them is that nobody agrees on what they should be. Saying that advertising is a pest that should be actively removed is not even an uncommon viewpoint. The city of Sao Paolo…

Please provide clarification: is something "relative" if people disagree on it? If there are two different interpretations of a single data set, for example, does it mean that the reality of what that data means is "relative" or just that one or both interpretation don't have enough information (or appropriate understanding of it)? Basically, I want to know what "relativism" actually means to you since your quote see…

Moral relativism is the opposite of moral absolutism.

Moral absolutism is the belief that certain actions are intrinsically moral or immoral.

For example, cannibalism. Say there is some tribe that eats their dead. A moral absolutist would say that "cannibalism is immoral", and therefore conclude that the tribe is immoral[1].

Whereas a moral relativist would say that, if you had grown up in a tribe of cannibals, then eating people would be a perfectly normal thing to do, it would be moral from the tribe's reference frame, and immoral from our reference frame.

Yes, different moral systems can be compared along certain objective dimensions. Objectively, cannibalism causes certain diseases such as kuru.

However, choosing which dimensions to optimise for is itself a subjective process. Objectively, cannibalism prevents food waste :)

Relativism is precisely what allows for meaningful disagreements to occur. Otherwise a disagreement would simply degenerate into a loud exchange of axioms (this often happens).

My problem with moral absolutism is that it requires a healthy dose of chronocentrism to buy into it without reference to some codified set of morals such as a religion. What is considered moral or immoral has changed dramatically in the last century alone. At some point in the future, our morality will be as unrecognisable to future generations as Ancient Greek morality is to us.

[1] Historically, this sort of moral absolutism was the impetus for certain missionary activity. No not that kind.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)

> it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites The user-hostile design of web sites in 2021 is appalling. Even simple text articles or blog posts have become horrible. I was just reading a blog post linked from HN which featured 3 different popups: two modals and a modeless sidebar popup that follows you as you scroll. No, I don't want to subscribe to your ema…

Add to that "X website would like to know your location" which Chrome seems to have built in the most annoying way possible for users.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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I had to disable Stopthemadness because while it does do some really useful things, it also caused a lot of problems.

I run it with recommend options + Show video controls and Stop autoplay and I have no issues other than occasional glitches because those two advanced options. What problems do you have?

I was struggling to remember when I posted because it's been a while since I turned it off, but one big one that I do remember was how often it would break 2FA forms that split the inputs into number pairs or similar. To be fair, those forms are stupid, but I have to use enough of them that getting a popup telling me it had truncated the paste to just the first two characters, making me close that popup, paste the number somewhere else and then copy them two at a time (or remember it) was enough to drive me insane on its own.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Electronic music wouldn't exist if it wasn't for ignoring copyright laws. The entire scene is built off the back of sampling and mix tapes. Likewise MP3 players and similar portable music devices (like the iPod) were technically advocating breaking copyright laws in some countries. Like here in the UK where it was illegal to rip a CD you owned. That law was clearly idiotic but the only reason it changed was because e…

Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before. It's a nitpick because I agree large swaths of the dance and hip-hop music we have today wouldn't exist if not for copyright violation, no denying that. However, if we can put aside t…

> Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before.

Depends on the genre to some extent but it's worth noting that Amiga trackers could double as samplers and even the Atari ST could trigger hardware samplers. A lot of electronic producers would swap samples even for percussion (eg the Amen break which is used massively in jungle and early DnB and was ripped from a B-side on a Winstons record). Even some riffs that sound like synths are actually samples layered over a piano roll. But you're absolutely right that synths and drum machines were also pivotal too. I wasn't trying to suggest that the entire scene existed only for sampling but instead stating that sampling was one of the cornerstones that lead to the creation of many of the genres we still listen to now.

> However, if we can put aside the legal angle, there's an understood difference between copyright violation for the purpose of sampling and remixing vs. outright "gonna steal your stuff because I don't want to pay for it."

If we're putting aside the legal angle, then it really depends on who you ask. Electronic (house, techno, trance, hardcore, etc) producers had no issue with their records being copied and shared on DJ mix tapes because that was a way for smaller artists and DJs in the scene to breakthrough. But as a DJ you'd sometimes avoid including tracks from big commercial labels -- particularly if you were a headliner DJ and thus your mix tape would been heard by more people -- because mainstream artists wouldn't turn the same kind of blind eye to their tracks being on mix tapes (source: I'm an ex-DJ)

So it really depends on the scene and sometimes even the individual.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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I run it with recommend options + Show video controls and Stop autoplay and I have no issues other than occasional glitches because those two advanced options. What problems do you have?

I was struggling to remember when I posted because it's been a while since I turned it off, but one big one that I do remember was how often it would break 2FA forms that split the inputs into number pairs or similar. To be fair, those forms are stupid, but I have to use enough of them that getting a popup telling me it had truncated the paste to just the first two characters, making me close that popup, paste the nu…

I started using Apple’s built in 2FA and I have no issues. It’s get filled in automatically. Didn’t had issues before either when I just copied and paste code manually.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before. It's a nitpick because I agree large swaths of the dance and hip-hop music we have today wouldn't exist if not for copyright violation, no denying that. However, if we can put aside t…

> I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples Yup, exactly. See, for instance, the 1937 ondes Martenot composition Oraison as an example.[0] Other electronic progenitor genres, e.g musique concrete, did use samples but they were widely not copyrighted sounds.[1][2] Hip-hop, however, would not exist without illegal sampling. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6…

Quoting artists from the 30s is a little disingenuous but maybe I should have been more explicit and said "electronic dance music" (which is also the significantly larger body of creative content). And in those genres copyrighted samples were used heavily.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before. It's a nitpick because I agree large swaths of the dance and hip-hop music we have today wouldn't exist if not for copyright violation, no denying that. However, if we can put aside t…

> Small nitpick- I'd say one of the hallmarks of electronic music was that it wasn't built from copyrightable samples. It was trackers and analog-then-digital synths and all sorts of microtonal weirdness which had never been heard before. Depends on the genre to some extent but it's worth noting that Amiga trackers could double as samplers and even the Atari ST could trigger hardware samplers. A lot of electronic pro…

Right, yeah, that's why I said _copyrightable_ samples.. e.g. sampling a sound from just about anywhere and slotting it into a tracker or drum machine is probably fine.

I do agree the waters get muddy once it's multiple seconds long.. IANAL but there's the famous vanilla ice lawsuit, and I think there was some fair use wiggle room if it's under some amount of time (forgot the exact limit), it is fine to use.

Good point about the DJ mixtape thing. I am guessing a lot of composers/producers got the raw end of that deal, but you are right, it helped a lot for promotion and growing the scene

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