California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide

Post by eftychis » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 11:42 PM UTC

bko wrote: post #71

darth_avocado wrote: post #14

Here's a revolutionary idea that pretty much all of the world adopts, if students are having trouble with a topic, get them to do more of it, instead of running away from it. I always find it hilarious that the pre college education in US is so messed up. Instead of doing Algebra 1, Algebra 2, calculus, geometry as one subject that you do in a year and then completely forgetting about it till the next time you have t…

This policy has nothing to do with the topic of algebra. This is code for advanced math, because algebra is typically considered advanced for < 9th grade children. Since the organizations feel ashamed that they're failing certain demographics as evidenced by being under-represented in the advanced classes, they're just scrapping the advanced classes for everyone. Truly disgraceful

Post by csa » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 11:42 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #89

WillPostForFood wrote: post #5

It’s the official shift from “we can lift everyone up” to “we need to hold everyone down”. It wasn’t that long ago the California was touting the success of Algebra for everyone in 8th grade.

> It’s the official shift from “we can lift everyone up” to “we need to hold everyone down”. No, its based on empirical evidence that the way things were done previously holds everyone down, and they should be done differently if you want to lift everyone up. Educational approaches are technologies, and old familiar technologies are, often, just not as good at their purpose as newer ones.

Post by FpUser » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 11:43 PM UTC

Post by DaiPlusPlus » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 11:43 PM UTC

ipaddr wrote: post #105

TimTheTinker wrote: post #64

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This "single standard" to me is like outlawing adjustable seats in cars. In the UK, they start separating students into separate tracks around 8th grade. Some will excel in math and science, so give them the opportunity to really go for it and take hard classes. Others will excel in other areas. But if everyone is lumped together in the same bucket and forced into the same mold, the average student's highest level of…

Get labelled incorrectly in grade 8 and get shutout of any advanced math/science classes which disqualifies you from a good university program.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 11:43 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #127

holonomically wrote: post #50

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Yup, even 2x2 systems of equations. This stuff isn't hard, I don't get what the folks in the US are thinking.

> I don't get what the folks in the US are thinking. My third grader does these (in an Oregon public school), so I think you've read too much into one article and a lot of uninformed commenters.