End of Support for Firefox Lockwise • Hacker News Board

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by throw_m239339 » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 2:32 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #36

elcapitan wrote: post #32

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Once their market share is so small that it doesn't protect Google from the next round of monopoly discussion anymore, they'll probably pull the plug anyway. It's a shame.

Mozilla is out of their minds to think that paying their top executive $2.4 million per year for 2018 onward (and rising exponentially, it was "only" $1 million a year in 2016) is a good idea. It's egregious by average nonprofit levels, particularly one that advocates "ethics" like Mozilla, and considering they laid off a major part of the development team, that's like 20 developers. Hiring 20 developers to work on y…

The CEO and other executives are looting that company before it collapses. It's obvious, and Mozilla will fold in the next 5 years. They will probably replace their own engine with Chrome before that and fire the team in charge, and see the CEO compensation double at the same time.

Mark my words.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by michaelhoffman » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

pjdorrell wrote: post #123

michaelhoffman wrote: post #39

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Personally I like Pocket although there are certainly places where it could use improvement.

Last time I tried it you couldn't update titles. Which is very limiting. Some web pages have great titles and other web pages don't.

Wanting to update titles is so out of my usage scenario for Pocket that I wouldn't even think about it.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by ihaveajob » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 10:56 PM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #24

ihaveajob wrote: post #13

Very annoying. I use Firefox, but I also loved Lockwise as a general password manager for other apps. What's the next best?

Firefox > Settings > Logins & passwords > Autofill in other apps. Happy to discover this via another comment in this thread myself! Why oh why this isn't clearer (or mentioned at all for Android) in the PR I have no idea. It makes a scary/annoying thing tame/nothing. I suppose we missed the earlier 'deprecated, switch to this' memo?

Doesn't seem to be an option on iOS?

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by jfrunyon » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:25 PM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #130

jfrunyon wrote: post #103

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It's super useful for a few sites I visit frequently who require 2FA but I don't need that security. But yeah, otherwise it's a pretty remarkably bad idea.

When you sign in to a website from your phone using a saved password and use that same phone for 2fa, it's pretty much the same thing. The whole meme that saving the 2fa seed to password managers is a bad idea needs to die. Most of the advantages of 2fa are still present when using a password manager.

It's the other way around. Literally all of the advantages of using 2FA are not present when you store both factors together.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by scrollaway » Wed, Dec 01, 2021, 6:54 AM UTC

jfrunyon wrote: post #134

scrollaway wrote: post #130

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When you sign in to a website from your phone using a saved password and use that same phone for 2fa, it's pretty much the same thing. The whole meme that saving the 2fa seed to password managers is a bad idea needs to die. Most of the advantages of 2fa are still present when using a password manager.

It's the other way around. Literally all of the advantages of using 2FA are not present when you store both factors together.

You are wrong. The primary advantage of 2fa is the OTP part, which wards against keyloggers and password reuse.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by jfrunyon » Wed, Dec 01, 2021, 8:53 PM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #135

jfrunyon wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the other way around. Literally all of the advantages of using 2FA are not present when you store both factors together.

You are wrong. The primary advantage of 2fa is the OTP part, which wards against keyloggers and password reuse.

Unless of course the keylogger also has access to the OTP.

If your device is compromised, your device is compromised.

It doesn't matter what the advantages of 2FA are. You don't have 2FA ("two-factor authentication") if your factors are stored together.