I love the speed and simplicity of Win2k.
What would HNers change in Win2k to bring it up-to-date? What's must have features does Windows 11 have that Win2k does not?
Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker
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#132I love the speed and simplicity of Win2k. What would HNers change in Win2k to bring it up-to-date? What's must have features does Windows 11 have that Win2k does not?
Modern desktops do multi-display and scaling better. Perhaps also GPU-work, however I greatly prioritize low latency over any fancy windowing.
I wonder how the Windows 2000 desktop latency was? I remember it felt really snappy.
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#133What a cool project. Expose that port 3389 (RDP) to the internet & see how long before it gets cryptolocked.
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#134Is booting windows in a vm something noteworthy in 2021?
I was searching for your question. I agree I don't know why this is in the first page... Maybe some people [1] are right when they say most of HN's audience is interested in business and technology, but not technical themselves. [1] http://n-gate.com/
What happened to ngate? Have they ever been on a long hiatus like this one before?
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Driver support isn't a given. There's lots of normal hardware which may never be server qualified. You can make a desktop that will run server fine, but it's kind of a Linux situation; you can't pick random parts and assume they'll work.
I have yet to run into this problem, do you have any examples? I don’t have any exotic hardware outside of the ThinkPad X220 dock which nowadays only works with Linux.
Not a problem with drivers per se, but Bluetooth is totally unavailable on Server SKUs, outside installing a proprietary Bluetooth stack outside the windows one.
Another issue I've run into was Server 2016 not having trackpad drivers for a Dell laptop's I2C bus/trackpad.
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The issue is hardware. Most gaming hardware does not have server qualified drivers which may mean you can't use your hardware. Issues normally with WiFi cards and GPUs, most other things will work. No chance of running Windows Server on a laptop. The qualification is to prevent random crashes; it's not really needed, but it is hard to impossible to disable last I checked.
Never had an issue with drivers... Was running nvidia cards and the standard nvidia drivers worked without issue... Also did manage to run win2003 on a laptop at one stage... Can't remember if drivers for wifi worked... The machine was hard wired in...
I've had wifi, bluetooth, and AMD GPUs fail to work, as well as integrated Intel GPUs. This may just be a 2019+ problem. 2008 might run, I haven't checked.
You may also find power management drivers don't install.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Driver support isn't a given. There's lots of normal hardware which may never be server qualified. You can make a desktop that will run server fine, but it's kind of a Linux situation; you can't pick random parts and assume they'll work.
I have yet to run into this problem, do you have any examples? I don’t have any exotic hardware outside of the ThinkPad X220 dock which nowadays only works with Linux.
Yes, most startling was Intel iGPU drivers not installing, as well as AMD GPU drivers not installing for non-enterprise cards. Then people have mentioned wireless and bluetooth typically being nonfunctional. Your touchpad may not work if it is I2C or if the PS2 bridge is USB. You may also be unable to get computer peripherals to work if they are not designed to be driverless.
I suspect power management is also poor.
Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker
#138I love the speed and simplicity of Win2k. What would HNers change in Win2k to bring it up-to-date? What's must have features does Windows 11 have that Win2k does not?
If it had updated security patches, drivers for modern hardware, and a modern web browser, I'd seriously consider using Windows 2000 as my daily driver today. Windows 2000 was peak Windows for me. It was stable, and the desktop did not get in my way. It's Windows without the bloat, the nagging, and the surveillance. I loved it in the early 2000's, preferred it to XP (which introduced activation, the Fisher-Price theme, and some nagging), and still love it to this day. I periodically check the progress of ReactOS (https://reactos.org), since this is the closest thing to this vision of an updated Windows 2000.
While I'm at it, I'd be very productive with 2000-era productivity software, such as Microsoft Office 2000 and the Adobe software of that era. Of course, I'd need updated compilers and other developer tools since I'd like to work with modern languages.
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I like to boot up old operating systems for UI design inspiration. Software really felt different back then. This sort of “pointless” project saves me a lot of hassle!
Is it that hard to do directly using QEMU? https://wiki.qemu.org/Windows2000
I think thats basically all this is.. qemu inside a container?
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I completely agree. People fondly remember XP, but Windows 2000 was peak Windows. It almost looks like a real operating system :)
I agree. People often forget that early releases of XP was basically just a re-skinned 2000 but with a few tweaks for games and fonts. The problem was those skins ended up doubling the memory and CPU requirements. In fact XP was a pretty bloated OS on hardware from 2002. It wasn’t until much later into the life of XP when hardware caught up and newer service packs added enough to the OS to really differentiate it fro…
Indeed. The good XP is the SP3.