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Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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The biggest thing turning me off when they email is that to work for Facebook you MUST have a Facebook account. I deleted mine years ago.

Being willing to use your employer's product is a really low bar in compatibility.

I wonder if Ferrari needs more programmers.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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The biggest thing turning me off when they email is that to work for Facebook you MUST have a Facebook account. I deleted mine years ago.

Dogfooding the product you're working on isn't that unusual even if it is FB. It dramatically improves quality when you're 'forced' to use the same product you're developing.

In general, yes absolutely.

It becomes more questionable when that product is on the backend of hundreds of thousands of engineer-hours dedicated to optimizing engagement. Bit like saying "sorry bud, we don't want your chemical engineering talent in our meth shop unless you are a meth addict, surely you understand self-hosting enables us to make a superior product"

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Most of their post-2000 successful products stem from acquisitions: Docs, Maps, Waymo...

Docs was an acquisition? From where?

Version 1 was from a company named Writely. Google massively refactored and rewrote it afterwards though.

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How so? Twitter has perhabs less than 10% of users as Facebook.

Twitter has out-sized influence.

Right, it's where the mob is and where the journalists and politicians are. They use and watch Twitter very closely and it informs what actions they take. Companies too.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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It's hard to think of something amazing from Google that they didn't acquire other than the search engine. Maps, YouTube, Android were all acquisitions. Most Google internal projects are future entries in the "Google graveyard". The better stuff I can think of is mostly deep technical stuff like Map Reduce built to support search. Facebook has also done fairly well with things that are pillars to support the (formerl…

Chrome, Gmail, drive, Chromecast, duo, call screening. There are plenty of entirely home grown products that have succeeded. Discounting products which have had the vast majority of their growth and featureset built out while under Google is also a but dismissive of it's role in making them successful.

duo has been successful?

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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While this is a trend across the board since the pandemic, for Facebook it is particularly troublesome because it's deeper rooted than at other companies. On an almost daily basis it is becoming more and more public knowledge that Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Young peo…

I don't think the root problem is any one person, given that Twitter is even more destructive to society. It's the users, it's the incentives of the platforms, it's bad actors. There's low trust, a breakdown of institutions, a raging culture war. It's complicated.

When a company (like Facebook) or a nation state (like Russia) is deeply dysfunctional and it has for a very long time been ruled by only one person, it is in fact fairly reasonable to conclude that the root problem is, at present, that one specific person.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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This is an entirely subjective take, but in the last few years FB seem to have evolved from one the coolest places for an engineer to being at the bottom of FAANG. I wonder if a significant amount of those people are looking for positions at Google/Amazon or they are taking their expertise somewhere else.

I've never understood obsession with FAANG. Seems like it is only meaningful to younger folks in the industry looking to establish themselves. You want FAANG on your resume so you can get the job you really want.

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Facebook presents an existential threat to the business of most traditional news media and they have a platform that actively promotes misinformation. The Press is doing their job: finding out what goes on inside Facebook and reporting on it. As someone not really involved either way, the responses of Facebook to legitimate questions has been entirely unsatisfactory and justifies the negative coverage they’ve receive…

> Facebook presents an existential threat to the business of most traditional news media and they have a platform that actively promotes misinformation. That's mainstream media's job... that's why they're pissed. Anyone remember Mika Bres-whatever saying on national television, "They're telling people what to think! That-that's our job!" I do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quU_Tbv96Wk

I had never seen this clip before, thanks for sharing. Is there more context or a longer clip? I think I heard the woman say “that is your job” at the end but it wasn’t clear who that was directed at.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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They’ve certainly faced an onslaught from the press, which has decided they are Philip Morris 2.0. It’s very unclear if that is going to translate into actual legal trouble. If I was at FB I’d be more concerned with how young people are rejecting it.

Facebook presents an existential threat to the business of most traditional news media and they have a platform that actively promotes misinformation. The Press is doing their job: finding out what goes on inside Facebook and reporting on it. As someone not really involved either way, the responses of Facebook to legitimate questions has been entirely unsatisfactory and justifies the negative coverage they’ve receive…

Facebook runs American tv and print media?
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