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The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#131
Am I the only one who just can't work with small laptops? I know and love the concept of the Framework laptop, but won't be able to contemplate buying one simply because it retains a Macbook-like form factor instead of a rugged 15" one with a tactile keyboard.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#132

From https://frame.work/blog/linux-on-the-framework-laptop : “ There has been immense interest in this configuration, with it outselling pre-configured systems with Windows 10 by a wide margin.” There is a market. And it is currently under-served.

Would be nice if it would mention which proprietary software is necessary.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#133
I'm impressed by the (allegedly) tactile and clear keyboard

https://frame.work/blog/the-keyboard

but I'd be delighted to see a happy-hacking style layout, where the arrow keys are consigned to the fn layer (which should be configurable; the whole keyboard could be configurable by qmk). It would also be nice to see an option where the trackpad is replaced by a foldable joystick. Maybe this way one could get rid of the split (arrow) key and the short f keys and the short escape. Think of the vi users.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#134

Am I the only one who just can't work with small laptops? I know and love the concept of the Framework laptop, but won't be able to contemplate buying one simply because it retains a Macbook-like form factor instead of a rugged 15" one with a tactile keyboard.

I love small laptops, but I hate the Macbook knock-off appearance and the giant trackpad.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#135
I would love to see a keyboard with an ortholinear layout [1] for the Framework Laptop. After switch to a dactyl manuform keyboard it is really painful to go back to a typical staggered layout. Touch typing is much easier and more natural when using a good ortholinear layout.

[1] https://mechlounge.com/interesting-ortho-ergo-keyboards/

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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My current laptop is a Thinkpad X200t from 10+ years ago. The MNT has a modern GPU and a nice keyboard. I think it's going to work quite well.

Maybe, at least that era of Core 2 Duo thinkpads supported 8G of RAM... I was in a similar boat until last year when I switched from a modded x61s to an x220 i7 then x230 i7 w/16GB which I'm still using and cost under $300 on ebay. The HD4000 iGPU is at least Vulkan capable. It's really unfortunate the imx8 SoC didn't have even an 8GB variant. The fact that you can get a raspberry pi with more memory than the Reform…

I've read they're working on a 16gb capable nxp soc. That'd be more useable.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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I'm typing this on my Framework now and I have to say it really is a special device. The prevailing culture of treating technology as disposable is something I personally don't vibe with - I always keep all of my tech and have collected machines over the years that most people would probably consider obsolete and uninteresting (there's an Amiga 1000 and iMac G3 currently in my field of view). Having a fully open mach…

> 4. The 3:2 display is awesome for programming and content creation, and I don't know why more devices don't adopt it.

The display on the FrameWork laptop needs to be scaled fractionally (about ~1.6x) which is a deal breaker for me. It would've been far better if it had resolution of 3000x2000 or 3200x1800, which would've given it a PPI of ~270 and integer scaling at 2x.

Linux support for fractional scaling with multiple monitors is unstable, even on Wayland. Applications like Firefox and Qt apps behave abnormally (pop menu positions are incorrect, they often flicker). There's also a subtle loss of quality in fonts and images.

https://scribe.rip/elementaryos/what-is-hidpi-and-why-does-i...

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#138

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Machines ordered without Windows won't necessarily end up running Linux. Many of them could end up running pirated Windows.

Microsoft actually offers Windows 10 for free, with some cosmetic restrictions until you pay for the license.

That's for upgrades from Win 7/8, not new machines.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

#139

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It's illegal. Software is licensed, not sold; and software licenses are usually nontransferable. This was a point of contention in Vernor v. Autodesk wherein the 9th Circuit found for Autodesk.

In the United States, you are right. In the EU, that is wrong. See for example: [0] The reason you can get entirely legal windows licenses for so cheap is that there are many institutional buyers who get the licenses they actually use separately but still purchase a lot of computers that have OEM licenses bundled [1], and now they all unload those licenses at whatever price the market will bear. Last year, that was ~…

Has the EU market converted to annual subscription licenses? I expect it would.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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post #103

I'm typing this on my Framework now and I have to say it really is a special device. The prevailing culture of treating technology as disposable is something I personally don't vibe with - I always keep all of my tech and have collected machines over the years that most people would probably consider obsolete and uninteresting (there's an Amiga 1000 and iMac G3 currently in my field of view). Having a fully open mach…

> 4. The 3:2 display is awesome for programming and content creation, and I don't know why more devices don't adopt it. My only criticism is that it's not a touch screen but with how modular this laptop is it's only a matter of time before that becomes an option. Really strongly agree with both points here as a new owner of a framework laptop. My old personal laptop had a 16:9 (not 16:10) screen and wow the differenc…

How does it compare when opening two windows side by side? Is there still enough horizontal screen real estate for things like a browser and a code editor to still be able to see enough content on both?
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