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Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by merb »

ziml77 wrote: post #46
SloopJon wrote: post #42

> Supported for three years as the latest long term support (LTS) release. This is the first thing I look for in these announcements. .NET 6 is the successor to .NET Core 3.1.

I've been waiting for .NET 6 for the past year for the long term support. As much as I wanted to use .NET 5, I figured it would be best to only use LTS releases in production.

not the best idea. because between .net 5 and .net 6 not a lot has changed. while 3.1 to 6 is waaaaaaaay more work than just 5 / 6 (which prob is just changing the version) especially on aspnetcore

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by orra »

spaetzleesser wrote: post #87
slownews45 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace ".NET" with "Windows" maybe? AS a longtime original VB/Winforms developer - MS lost their mind on desktop development and didn't look back. They chased EVERY fad that could be chased. Silverlight, UPF, XAML, WPF, Islands, MAUI. This is one of those things - imagine if they'd focused on building an amazing and cross platform (ultimately) toolkit with just a basic drag and drop designer? Who cares about "stylin…

And the crazy thing is that all these frameworks were basically incompatible variations of the same thing. Since WPF nothing has really gotten better. Just different for no good reason. I will never bet on any new MS desktop development framework anymore . It’s either WPF or preferably web (even Electron) for me.

To be fair to UWP XAML, it's more efficient than WPF.

I don't mean because it's written in C++ instead of C#. The render pipeline of WinUI is more efficient. It's really interesting, but unfortunately I can't find the technical blog I was thinking on.

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by ptx »

jekude wrote: post #34

As a relatively new engineer (~2 years FAANG experience), there seems to be a connotation around .NET. Perhaps this is indicative of the larger Microsoft ecosystem, but it feels like my peers at university and in the industry tend to stay far away from .NET for personal projects, etc. Why is this?

One reason might be an awareness that Microsoft will be Microsoft and they tend to do things like putting "telemetry" in the CLI tools: https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/6145

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by eatonphil »

Is there a mature(!) webview library for .NET so I can build cross-platform GUIs with HTML/JS/React but write the backend in C#/F# and bundle that whole thing into a single file (not a zip/something that gets extracted on run) for every platform?

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by abdusco »

polskibus wrote: post #129
abdusco wrote: post #24

> In .NET 6, in-memory single file apps have been enabled for Windows and macOS. In .NET 5, this deployment type was limited to Linux. You can now publish a single-file binary that is both deployed and launched as a single file, for all supported OSes. Single files apps no longer extract any core runtime assemblies to temporary directories. This is a great! Now I can publish statically linked executables and run it e…

What do you mean by golang quirks?

No passable debugger, weird typing system, verbose error handling, lack of exceptions, generics, syntactic sugar ...

I'm a novice at Golang, and I dislike much of the language, except that it's fast and can produce small binaries.

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by atraac »

vips7L wrote: post #90
UglyToad wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perceived cool factor, I think. Both .NET/C# and Java are the core of Dark Matter Development [0]. They're what a huge chunk of developers and enterprise actually use but they're not cool and they don't get blogged about. Obviously the history of EEE and Windows only legacy means there's a lot of hostility to anything .NET specifically amongst a subpopulation of developers. However I don't think it sufficiently expla…

IMO Java/.NET just don't get blogged about _on this site_. If you visit /r/Java, /r/dotnet etc, you'll actually find the content about them.

The issue with /r/dotnet is that most people there are almost fanatics. A single bad word about MS or any topic of the month like MediatR gets you downvoted to oblivion. There's almost no real discussion there.

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by abdusco »

eatonphil wrote: post #134

Is there a mature(!) webview library for .NET so I can build cross-platform GUIs with HTML/JS/React but write the backend in C#/F# and bundle that whole thing into a single file (not a zip/something that gets extracted on run) for every platform?

Hopefully with MAUI + BlazorWebview component:

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/announcing-net-maui-pr...

Unless it gets rebranded again before it's usable.

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by WorldMaker »

eatonphil wrote: post #134

Is there a mature(!) webview library for .NET so I can build cross-platform GUIs with HTML/JS/React but write the backend in C#/F# and bundle that whole thing into a single file (not a zip/something that gets extracted on run) for every platform?

WebView2: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview...

For instance, in WPF applications: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/get...

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by damagednoob »

UglyToad wrote: post #49
jekude wrote: post #34

As a relatively new engineer (~2 years FAANG experience), there seems to be a connotation around .NET. Perhaps this is indicative of the larger Microsoft ecosystem, but it feels like my peers at university and in the industry tend to stay far away from .NET for personal projects, etc. Why is this?

Perceived cool factor, I think. Both .NET/C# and Java are the core of Dark Matter Development [0]. They're what a huge chunk of developers and enterprise actually use but they're not cool and they don't get blogged about. Obviously the history of EEE and Windows only legacy means there's a lot of hostility to anything .NET specifically amongst a subpopulation of developers. However I don't think it sufficiently expla…

> It's a bit of a shame because it would be nice to have more startup opportunities in .NET

Even if you ignore the history of companies like MS and Oracle what it comes down to is vendor lockin. If there's a chance a vendor will pop up in 3 years time with a huge bill, why take the risk when there are plenty of free alternatives.

Re: .NET 6 Released

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Post by WorldMaker »

vyrotek wrote: post #115
DavidKarlas wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.NET is sane now... .NET 5, .NET 6, .NET 7... all cool, no more confusion going forward... .NET Framework(full Windows only Framework) is .NET Framework 4.x, stuck there forever only security patches... Only remaining confusing part left in ecosystem is "ASP.NET Core", because even though .NET got rid of Core, latest version ASP.NET didn't

And Entity Framework Core unfortunately because EF6 was already a thing.

Yeah, hopefully as others have pointed out, with .NET 7 next year all the version numbers align so that ASP.NET and EF can drop "Core" again.
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