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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by Aissen »

vmception wrote: post #51
Aissen wrote: post #36

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If you look at sales chart, Sony is selling as many PS5 as they sold PS4 during the same launch period. It's just that demand is higher; the fact that they are able to make as much during a chip shortage says a lot of their supply chain expertise (same could be said of MS, Nintendo, Samsung, LG, Apple etc.).

Expertise being a euphemism for relationships to skip the queue.

It's true, it's heavily unfair that the tech giants have better access to manufacturing, etc. And while I 100% agree with @scott_w's sibling comment, this not even the only factor.

How many people do you think they have dedicated only to supply chain management ? This is such a wide domain, we don't see it all from here: they have engineers dedicated to sourcing, to manufacturing, testing, evaluating new sources; people in charge of a given supplier; people in charge of the various type of transport, of recycling, etc. All this is in-house expertise, and definitely gives them an edge.

If you look at most big auto manufacturers; they too are suffering from shortages. So it seems tech giants must be doing something better.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by madeofpalk »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Game consoles are appliances. This is either a pro or a con depending on your point of view.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by theshrike79 »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

I did the math.

For the price it would've taken me to upgrade my aging gaming PC to be able to play AAA games smoothly would've cost about the same as getting both a PS4 Pro and Xbox One X.

That combined with the fact that I don't need to upgrade the consoles for years made the choice really simple.

I still play a few games on my PC (Valheim, Factorio etc), but I'm hoping the Steam Deck will allow me to retire the old beast completely.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by [deleted] »

rasz wrote: post #79
gambiting wrote: post #54

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It really varies with markets. In UK it's pretty hard(although over the last year I've managed to help several of my friends buy one, it's just a matter of setting up discord notifications), in Poland they are easily available, you can just walk into a store and buy one no problem. Or several places have stock available for delivery. No big deal. For instance https://m.euro.com.pl/konsole-playstation-5/sony-playstati…

Yes, its available at x2 MSRP

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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by zaarn »

maccard wrote: post #129
zaarn wrote: post #125

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A half decent PC is in the 800€ to 1000€ range. If you're willing to take some graphical downgrades you can do it for 600-800€ too. How many games can you buy for 500€ max? About 10 or so. Maybe.

You're comparing full price console games to free PC games. There are numerous games on consoles that cost less than €50, and buying the latest AAA releases on PC will cost you more than €50 too

How many free Console games are there? Much less than PC.

It's entirely fair as there is more possibility of free PC games, or them being of negligible cost since you pay lower platform fees.

This is in addition to the opportunity costs you incur of not buying a PC or having a lower powered PC as a PC can be used for other things (ie, office work, taxes, other productivity tasks).

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by ghusbands »

rasz wrote: post #79
gambiting wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really varies with markets. In UK it's pretty hard(although over the last year I've managed to help several of my friends buy one, it's just a matter of setting up discord notifications), in Poland they are easily available, you can just walk into a store and buy one no problem. Or several places have stock available for delivery. No big deal. For instance https://m.euro.com.pl/konsole-playstation-5/sony-playstati…

Yes, its available at x2 MSRP

Plenty of people in this thread, including your parent post, have found it at around MSRP.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by SalimoS »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

I am primary an iOS developer so I’m not interested in a MacBook + a PC setup

So for gaming i choose an xbox console and for the 70$ Price I subscribed to xbox game pass ultimate (it’s 15$/mo) but I have access to all 1st party games day one with more than 200 games in the backlog which I don’t have time to play them

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by ratww »

perth wrote: post #102
dajonker wrote: post #90

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Convenience and cost for me. You get significantly better hardware for your money than a PC for the same price, while it is guaranteed that all games you can buy will run as the developer intended it. Just turn it on and play.

Not sure how true this is, but I've heard that Sony's PlayStation division is taking a hard hit from scalping, since they sell the consoles at a loss and scalpers don't buy games. So I wonder if this trend of selling consoles at a loss will continue in future generations.

This doesn't make sense. Unless the scalpers are hoarding consoles or using them for a purpose other than games (space heater? overpriced Netflix machine?), the consoles will get in the hands of a game buyer.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by h0l0cube »

wongarsu wrote: post #118
haunter wrote: post #93

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- Cheaper than a gaming PC. Of course it depends on your setup but for the same price ($500 MSRP) it would be hard to build a decent rig that plays the current gen new games perfectly - It just works. Games can have bugs but no hassle with installation, drivers etc. Games are more or less better optimzed because all the devs are working on the same hardware. No 100s different CPU and GPU. And one operating system - E…

As for how it manages to be cheaper, there's two factors - At the beginning of the release cycle consoles are often sold at a loss, the money is made back from game sales (a $60 PC game costs $70 on console) - It's much easier to optimize for the known hardware configuration of a console than for "all PCs". Console hardware isn't high-end, the heavy lifting is done by heavy optimization of the games for the specific…

That and consoles are basically monster DSPs, benefiting from high-throughput buses and parallel processing in a way that general purpose computers do not. Architecting from the ground up with this in mind means you can build something with cheaper silicon that performs much better for video games

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by stef25 »

doikor wrote: post #91
shocks wrote: post #89

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I already spend all day sat at my desk. I was a “PC gamer” for years, but consoles are better for plug and play group/sofa gaming.

Nothing is stopping you from connecting a PC to your TV to play games on your sofa.

Attempted it several times, to run Plex etc. Remote control never works well. Having to keep a mouse & keyboard near the TV is a hassle.

I'm sure it's perfectly possible but some people don't want another thing to configure and troubleshoot if that's their day job.

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