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Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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Re: Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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Well, I didn't say we have a shortage of psychos, did I? Hunting the white rhinos to extinction is totally fine. It's just game theory, you guys.

Nobody said "fine". They said it happens, and that it follows from incentives.

Yes, yes. Here's the essence of that logic:

1. On taking: we should do it or someone else will 2. On giving: might as well skipt it because someone else will

Re: Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we're hoping for something different here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

He's saying we are making so much noise in the ocean that it's hard for them to go about their business - which is absolutely true. Military sonar might even be partly to blame for whale strandings.

That of course would be a much better comment.

Re: Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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God I cannot wait to talk to whales. Their oral histories must be incredible. People have fantasized about communicating with extraterrestrials for ages. I don't understand why we haven't invested significant resources in trying to communicate with the other animals on our own planet. What an incredibly weird and non translatable experience it will be to (finally?!) start this adventure with whales. Tangent time. If…

> Lets get some whale engineers working on the hard problems please. Somehow I pictured whales as the engineers in this sentence. It makes it even better.

“You’re telling me a shrimp fried this rice?!”

Re: Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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The best example I know offhand is the custom hunting styles of different orca pods. Given that orcas also play I find it more likely that there is rich communication than not.

Orcas are mostly silent, especially when hunting, iirc.

Actually no, orcas echolocate a lot and also exchange quite a few calls while hunting fish (based on acoustic tag data).

Re: Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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> Lets get some whale engineers working on the hard problems please. Somehow I pictured whales as the engineers in this sentence. It makes it even better.

“You’re telling me a shrimp fried this rice?!”

Never gets old.

Re: Attempting to interpret sperm whale clicks with AI, then talk back

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We've always been able to talk with those humans though and most of the times we fight them for their resources, not their bodies.

Humans were often raped and enslaved when they were pillaged. Sometimes used for food or entertainment. It is a sad truth that humans had little trouble viewing other humans as resources.

You're right. Before recent centuries wars were often fought to acquire slaves since it equaled free work power and women to breed children in case of population declines. It just stroke me while reading a bit of trivia about the Vikings show I have been watching two seasons of and yet I didn't realize their motivation for raiding and plundering was acquiring human resources.
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