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Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

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Post by zepolen »

cletus wrote: post #26

I'm a big fan of this form factor, specifically just big enough to fit a motherboard/CPU/RAM plus a real-size GPU. These all use SFX PSUs and typically just an M2 SSD on the motherboard. They also have only 2 RAM slots. The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC. It's a niche, boutique market but there are some really interesting cases. My perso…

> The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC

If you want a powerful space saving device, get a powerful laptop. If you want power, cooling, adaptability and room you get a tower.

This mini desktop form factor is the worst of both worlds.

There are laptops with 16 threads, a 3080, 2x nvme and 2x ram slots and weigh 5lbs that run at 70C at full throttle, 40C idling - oh and integrated 3 hour UPS.

A tower otoh can fit 8+ disks, 2 or 3 gpus, plenty of quiet cooling and most importantly doesn't make you cuss every time you add/change a component because there is lots of room to get your hands in there.

You want a portable tower? Get one with handles on it. How often do you really move it anyway.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

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Post by SrslyJosh »

crisdux wrote: post #29

That's a very expensive price for unassembled computer case with questionable aesthetics and missing many premium features of similarly priced products. I don't even think this is a good market fit. I don't think this case would be a good learning tool.

No drive cage? How does everything mount? They've provided zero photos of the interior of an assembled machine.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#133

Post by anticensor »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #112
cletus wrote: post #26

I'm a big fan of this form factor, specifically just big enough to fit a motherboard/CPU/RAM plus a real-size GPU. These all use SFX PSUs and typically just an M2 SSD on the motherboard. They also have only 2 RAM slots. The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC. It's a niche, boutique market but there are some really interesting cases. My perso…

> The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC. Have you seen the air-cooler on a threadripper ?! :-) I don't really disagree with you but I like my old tower box because it has lots of room and easy to work on, and I realize that was why I liked my old car because engine compartment had lots of room to work.

MicroATX Threadripper boards are theoretically possible, if you go chipsetless like in X300 or EPYC.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#134

Post by wyre »

LegitShady wrote: post #15
gambiting wrote: post #5

I mean...neat? But the price is insane. £195 for a very basic case that you have to assemble yourself?

Its not for computer people it's for teenage engineering people. There's a big difference. Not to be too mean about it (I do own an op-z) but there's a subset of synthheads who will buy whatever they put out. The price is about double what i expect anyone else to sell it for so that is about on par with most of their stuff. The most interesting thing to me is that they don't seem to give you a reason to want to buy i…

A synth head looking for a SFF should get a Mac mini, much better value for music production than this tiny pc.

I think their just showcasing their proof of concept.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#135

Post by formerly_proven »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #121
formerly_proven wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure where you're getting these numbers, but modern AIO water cooling isn't that expensive. I could have been more clear here, I meant a custom-loop, not an AIO since they're a sidegrade to a top-end air-cooler at best. > However, the modern SFF experience is much better than you give it credit for. An AMD 5950X with a 240mm AIO in a mini-ITX case is easy these days and it keeps the CPU temperature in a rea…

> I could have been more clear here, I meant a custom-loop, not an AIO since they're a sidegrade to a top-end air-cooler at best. Custom loop and an AIO of the same size are going to perform the same. I don't understand why you're suggesting that water cooling costs "10X" as much as air cooling when that's clearly not true. An AIO and a custom loop with the same size radiator will perform the same. I've done custom l…

> This isn't true.

I don't understand why you claim something is not true, then say the same thing with different words.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#136

Post by MisterBiggs »

I currently have a massive full tower PC that's water cooled and to be honest I hate it. Its great for gaming but otherwise I think I would much rather have a small mini-ITX pc like this that can be portable, and when I need to run demanding code I can just use a VPS.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#137

Post by vluft »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #112
cletus wrote: post #26

I'm a big fan of this form factor, specifically just big enough to fit a motherboard/CPU/RAM plus a real-size GPU. These all use SFX PSUs and typically just an M2 SSD on the motherboard. They also have only 2 RAM slots. The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC. It's a niche, boutique market but there are some really interesting cases. My perso…

> The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC. Have you seen the air-cooler on a threadripper ?! :-) I don't really disagree with you but I like my old tower box because it has lots of room and easy to work on, and I realize that was why I liked my old car because engine compartment had lots of room to work.

heck, I have an epyc on an almost-ITX (https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=R...) board now, and any of the noctua TR4/SP3 tower coolers will cool it fine.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

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Post by stingraycharles »

MisterBiggs wrote: post #136

I currently have a massive full tower PC that's water cooled and to be honest I hate it. Its great for gaming but otherwise I think I would much rather have a small mini-ITX pc like this that can be portable, and when I need to run demanding code I can just use a VPS.

There are some great larger cases though. I’m a big fan of Lian-Li’s cases, although they can be massive, its design is good.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#139

Post by beachy »

gambiting wrote: post #5

I mean...neat? But the price is insane. £195 for a very basic case that you have to assemble yourself?

Not just assemble but actually bend/form the corners yourself.

Without the benefit of seeing it in the flesh, I fear either I would struggle to get accurate bends (which would annoy me for the rest of it's life) or the case has been made flimsy so it bends easily.

Beautiful web site and digging the orange though.

Re: Computer-1 mini-ITX Chassis

#140

Post by smoldesu »

Zanneth wrote: post #50
Kirby64 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's Teenage Engineering. None of their stuff is cheap, and you're paying mainly for the aesthetic.

They make high quality stuff. I have an OP-1 synthesizer. It's not just good looking, it's an amazingly innovative and fun device.

I might be a little more forgiving to their cause if they didn't drastically increase the price after it became popular.
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