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Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by chasil »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #116
chasil wrote: post #106

As funny as it may be, this is a weakness in human character, a desire for a thing of no value. Transactional exchanges bleach emotion and depth. There are productive relationships in life. They do not lie within this realm. For myself, this was waste of time. I do not deny those who seek it, but the end result is always to be disillusioned. And now I sound like an octogenarian.

One of the friendships I most value in my life, I formed meeting for the more transactional version of this: at a brothel. I made a lifelong friend because I connected with someone, even though I was paying for sex. I’m not expecting to change your mind about whether this kind of interaction can become a meaningful connection. But I know from experience it doesn’t have to be empty.

I love the Rubáiyát.

This one, above all others.

XCIX Ah, Love! could you and I with Him conspire To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire, Would not we shatter it to bits--and then Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by _z6tl »

LurkingPenguin wrote: post #42
akudha wrote: post #15

1,200 an hour! Jeez, that is insane! good for them. Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually drop 1,200 an hour , for anything, let alone on escorts.

And also: > 8% reported legal trouble > 8% reported being arrested > 16% reported physical assault > 17% reported contracting a STD > 29% reported being stolen from > 41% reported sexual assault So no doubt the rates are in part a reflection of the risks providers take in the course of offering their services.

And no doubt the risks decrease as the hourly rate increases.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by eyelidlessness »

chasil wrote: post #127
eyelidlessness wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the friendships I most value in my life, I formed meeting for the more transactional version of this: at a brothel. I made a lifelong friend because I connected with someone, even though I was paying for sex. I’m not expecting to change your mind about whether this kind of interaction can become a meaningful connection. But I know from experience it doesn’t have to be empty.

There is a point in your life where this will all be put away, the longing, the regret, the desire, and the complexity. I am beyond that event horizon. Looking out from a "Schwarzschild radius" on what other people choose to suffer, I remember being on the other side. I am not going back. There is a story about one who goes back, Avalokiteshvera. That is not me, for now. None of us have the bandwidth.

I don’t think this is a helpful discussion.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by _z6tl »

Aella wrote: post #20
loxias wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It would be nice if we could just regulate this industry to protect the people in it. Amen to that. As an ignorant outsider looking in, the first thing that comes to mind is the possible huge safety benefits gained by collective bargaining. Even if it's not certified and recognized by the NLRB, there's gotta be something.

Decriminalization, that's mostly what sex workers want. I'm pretty wary of regulation, which often is done in misguided ways by people out of touch with sex workers' actual needs.

How do you feel about the policies in the Netherlands?

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by tomc1985 »

akudha wrote: post #15

1,200 an hour! Jeez, that is insane! good for them. Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually drop 1,200 an hour , for anything, let alone on escorts.

It strikes me somewhat oddly that one might pay so much for something that literally half the people on this planet is equipped to provide

You're paying for looks, ease, simplicity, no strings, and so on... I get it. But idunno, that is a lot of money for one nut.

Also suprised the San Diego price is so high, when there is a red light district literally on the border in Tijuana, and those girls charge $60-$100/hr US to gringos (and less to spanish-speakers, locals, and people who pay in pesos)

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by akudha »

loxias wrote: post #28
akudha wrote: post #15

1,200 an hour! Jeez, that is insane! good for them. Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually drop 1,200 an hour , for anything, let alone on escorts.

> 1,200 an hour! I've always been mildly curious, my first thoughts were "Less than I thought!". Hear me out (criticism of my thinking on this is very welcome): In LA's Ktown, a Domi (a job I had no idea existed just a few years ago... google if curious) charges a base rate of $100/hr, plus tips. For the client, there is no guarantee of nudity or any physical contact, though it's of course up to each individual what…

I have no experience with this industry, I don't know what Domi is. I was simply looking at the numbers from my very limited (zero) understanding of the economics of sex work and economics in general. $1,200 is two months of my food budget, when I eat well, lol.

Somebody reading this comment (probably making minimum wage) might be thinking 20$ (1200/60) per day food budget is a luxury.

Anyway, all I was wondering is - a super tiny percentage of the population can afford to spend 1200 an hour, on anything. Must be nice to be that rich, lol.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by system2 »

LurkingPenguin wrote: post #42
akudha wrote: post #15

1,200 an hour! Jeez, that is insane! good for them. Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually drop 1,200 an hour , for anything, let alone on escorts.

And also: > 8% reported legal trouble > 8% reported being arrested > 16% reported physical assault > 17% reported contracting a STD > 29% reported being stolen from > 41% reported sexual assault So no doubt the rates are in part a reflection of the risks providers take in the course of offering their services.

> 17% reported contracting a STD

I wonder if any money is worth having an extreme risk of getting a deadly virus.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by eyelidlessness »

yedava wrote: post #53

> 41% reported sexual assault This is from a group of sex workers who appear to be screening their clientele. I wonder how high the number would be among sex workers who don't have the same amount of financial safety net that someone who can pick and chose their clients has. I also wonder how those assaults could be brought down, if that is even possible in the first place. I always hear how sex work just needs to be…

Before determining how you should police sex work or customers thereof, you might want to contextualize it with an understanding of both reports and estimates of unreported sexual assaults of women in the general population.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Post by chasil »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #133
chasil wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a point in your life where this will all be put away, the longing, the regret, the desire, and the complexity. I am beyond that event horizon. Looking out from a "Schwarzschild radius" on what other people choose to suffer, I remember being on the other side. I am not going back. There is a story about one who goes back, Avalokiteshvera. That is not me, for now. None of us have the bandwidth.

I don’t think this is a helpful discussion.

I am curious, what do you see as helpful?

Iconoclast as I may be, I would like to do the correct thing.

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