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Re: Pop OS – System76

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I switched from xubuntu to pop about two months ago and generally have a good time using it. I like the tiling wm and had to configure very little and except for the crappy WiFi stick everything worked out of the box. Being the idiot that I am I thought I wouldn't need a swap file and now everytime my ram is full my system freezes entirely.

You won't need a Swap partition. You might as well create a Swapfile and use it for Swap without the need to repartition the disk.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/swap#Swap_file

Re: Pop OS – System76

#132
Hey system76 if you're reading this the keys vault has various crashy behavior with different kids of ssh keys. I believe I took a putty exported openssh key and I could not import it via the UI. It's the underlying service that's buggy iirc. There's an existing open issue for it that I cannot find at this moment.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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I am still searching for a replacement of Ubuntu. snap store not being open source made was enough for me after nearly 10 years. Well, not so much for myself. I can handle Arch and whatnot. I am a distro hopper, although a somewhat slow one. Used i3 for years and should probably go back (or to sway). But for family members and relatives whose machines I install and support. Is Pop OS a reasonable candidate for that?…

My wife uses fedora frequently and barely notices the difference between her Mac these days, most stuff is through chrome anyway.

I use arch on my workstation / laptops for various reasons. For homelab boxes and the htpc I use fedora, easy to install and everything just works.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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On the other hand I still cannot configure CMD-tab to work like on Windows and most Linux desktop environments ln my brand new Mac. Keyboard navigation (moving between or selecting words or lines of text) still seems somewhat hit or miss even though it is better than when I left Mac OS behind in 2012. Of course this might not matter to you (and I even know some of you prefer the separation between "application switch…

Here: Install this, will fix how command+tab works and it's actively developed. https://github.com/lwouis/alt-tab-macos

Wow! If this works it deals with the single biggest ux problem of Mac OS for a number of us.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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I am still searching for a replacement of Ubuntu. snap store not being open source made was enough for me after nearly 10 years. Well, not so much for myself. I can handle Arch and whatnot. I am a distro hopper, although a somewhat slow one. Used i3 for years and should probably go back (or to sway). But for family members and relatives whose machines I install and support. Is Pop OS a reasonable candidate for that?…

I have started installing Fedora on computers I set up for my family, and it has been great! Everything works out of the box and every app is avaliable in the app store thanks to Flatpaks. Skype is just a click away, which used to require adding extra repos from Microsoft. My father, who barely knows how to operate a computer, has been using it for years without the need for support. No forced updates/reboots. I only…

> My father, who barely knows how to operate a computer, has been using it for years without the need for support.

How's this working with regard to discoverability? Asking out of general curiosity; I haven't supported anybody else with a Linux desktop in years, and I'm fine with Gnome for my own workflow and habits, but I've always wondered if the lack of always-visible app launchers or an obvious menu in stock Gnome wouldn't be an issue for those who don't already know what and where to look.

> No forced updates/reboots. I only run a system upgrade every year or so, which also is a one button operation whitout any problems.

If these are the only updates run on that computer, wouldn't that leave e.g. browsers unpatched for quite long periods of time?

Re: Pop OS – System76

#136

Pop is my new favorite. I started using it at the urging of friends, and love it. I've written a couple reviews of it on my blog, as it's been my "daily driver" for my laptop for nearly a year. I've been a Linux user since 1995/96, and a die hard Arch user for about 10 years. So why would I want a Linux distro that's super hands-off and easy to use? It's incredibly stable. "Set it and forget it". If I want a bleeding…

Nothing wrong with PopOS, but I'd pick plain Debian over Ubuntu. Just make sure to install from the "unofficial non-free media" if you're on modern hardware. Also the 'testing' channel of Debian makes for a great semi-rolling distribution.

I think for many some of the appeal of Ubuntu is in Ubuntu LTS, which gets more attention than the Debian alternative.

Have a look at the Ubuntu LTS page: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

And then look at the Debian equivalent: https://www.debian.org/lts/

(though the differences are perhaps because the latter is comparatively more unofficial)

But hey, many people prefer more stable distros with somewhat long life times, so that's a valid preference nonetheless.

Disclaimer: mostly a Debian user, i dread having to migrate from 10 to 11, but hey, at least i can use Ansible for all of my servers this time around.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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How can people be having this kind of conversation while also claiming this is the state of the art or the gold standard in 2021? I've been running macos since 2012 and never had such issues. That's over 10 years ago. Of course, OS X is older than that, and as far as I can tell, it never had such issues.

Not to minimize the other commenters issues, but I've never seen an issue like this, and I've run Pop on a wide variety of hardware. And as the sibling to this comment points out, Pop only officially support their own hardware, where this would never happen. Edit: It also seems worth pointing out that the reasons these conversations are had is that it can be fixed. Mac and Windows? Not so much in my experience. Worki…

Ugh Windows updates bugs! I’ve lost so much time because of it breaking.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Nothing wrong with PopOS, but I'd pick plain Debian over Ubuntu. Just make sure to install from the "unofficial non-free media" if you're on modern hardware. Also the 'testing' channel of Debian makes for a great semi-rolling distribution.

I think for many some of the appeal of Ubuntu is in Ubuntu LTS, which gets more attention than the Debian alternative. Have a look at the Ubuntu LTS page: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop And then look at the Debian equivalent: https://www.debian.org/lts/ (though the differences are perhaps because the latter is comparatively more unofficial) But hey, many people prefer more stable distros with somewhat long life…

Better marketing doesn't make it better. If you compare the actual releases I think you will find Debian to be more stable overall.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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As far as I'm concerned, this is the current gold standard for out-of-box experience desktop Linux. There are things I would do differently if I were building a system myself, but PopOS "Just Works", and is more polished than Win10 imho.

Fedora and pop OS have been ahead of windows for a while. Personally also think Mac is going the way of windows, I have to use it for testing safari sometimes the OS is an absolute nightmare to use, always popping up asking for my password or fingerprint or some other password, or some other permission, it's just a whole bunch of antipatterns.

You are absolutely correct. I remember when I switched from Windows XP to Mac how much quieter it got. No more constant pop ups, and importantly, apps were not allowed to steal focus. Now there’s a constant stream of interruptions. I’m constantly having window focus stolen by others apps while I’m typing, constantly having notifications, and the UI has only gotten worse over the last few years.

But damn if that hardware isn’t the best.

I’m torn on how best to switch to linux as a daily driver considering how much I depend on the very customized workflow I have running on my Mac.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Ubuntu has had the proprietary nvidia driver on the iso and selected out of the box for a few releases now.

NVIDIA Optimus support - out of the box with a UI to switch graphics cards. The only other bistro I have seen to support it is Ubuntu MATE. All other distros require installation outside of the default package managers.

> The only other bistro I have seen to support it is Ubuntu MATE.

Rarely have I come across an eatery that serves IT.

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