Samsung Foundry Forum announcements

Post by MangoCoffee » Fri, Oct 08, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

zibzab wrote: post #111

ksec wrote: post #84

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I want to add some context for those who dont follow Semi closely. Samsung Foundry have a history of over promise and under deliver. This 3nm launch will likely be similar to their EUV node which they claim to be industry first but wasn't shipping in any real volume. So arguably they are not lying, but it is a marketing spin. TSMC is an extremely pragmatic company. It either work or it doesn't, there is no need to sa…

Counterpoint: What is the point of having the best tech in 2021 if all capacity is allocated to a single customer?

"To be clear, wafer agreements are signed 2-3 years before the chip makes it into HVM and TSMC can build fabs faster than that so there will be no N3 shortages for anyone who signed a wafer agreement (apple, AMD, NVIDIA, QCOM, etc…). If they need more chips than what they signed up for, which happens, there may be shortages. This is how TSMC and the foundry business works. It’s all about the wafer agreements."

https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-manufacturers/302408-tsmc...

Post by soylentnewsorg » Fri, Oct 08, 2021, 11:07 PM UTC

p1necone wrote: post #89

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #75

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I Really do think so. Because it's exactly following the naming standard of existing displays. Go to Walmart. Go to the TV section. You see all those LED TVs? They're both LCD and LED. That LED portion is used for a light source. Q stands for Quantum dot, which is another grid layer on top of the LED layer, to improve that LED light. The reason for the upper case Q, is because upper case is just how acronyms roll. No…

Manufacturers only started calling LCDs with LED backlights "LED TVs" when OLED tech started getting hyped up too. It's the same kind of bullshit marketing.

Actually, you're conveniently omitting a part of that history, which completely negates your point. First it was LCD and Plasma. Then Plasma went away completely, and you had fluorescent backlit LCD. What's the point of calling something LCD when it's all LCD? Was the Sony Trinitron called a CRT? No, it was called a Trinitron, because everything was CRT.

When LED started happening, it wasn't just a big backlight like the old gas backlit LCD. There were many LEDs, and they were selectively turned on or off to save energy and greatly improve contrast. Not just a dumb backlight like "LCD" in the days when it was competing with Plasma. So yes, LED, which provided the Luminance channel of the image, was a completely valid way to call it.

>LED backlights "LED TVs" when OLED tech started getting hyped up

well this is simply false. LED TVs came out over a decade before OLED TVs and were called LED TVs.

Since the Q applies to the LED, not the LCD part of the TV, QLED is exactly and the only proper way to call it.

It's the same kind of bullshit conspiracy theory as "covid is a hoax" and "the election was stolen." The QLED and LED name have zero to do with marketing. They literally describe the TV.

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