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Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Re: Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Post by kyle-rb »

netcan wrote: post #121
vorpalhex wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alternative market would create pressure on Apple. If Netflix tells the App store to go screw themselves and lists on a different store, then the App Store gets that much less traffic and either has to compete or lose out.

I don't think it does, beyond box ticking. You're not likely to get enough competition to get competitive market dynamics on iPhones. Sure, a highly motivated user might go to alternative app stores. Netflix does not need to go to a different store. They're influential enough to negotiate. Apple would cut them the discount, like now, and they wouldn't. The other store will not have enough users to make the reduced fe…

>Sure, a highly motivated user might go to alternative app stores.

Highly motivated users like kids who want to install Fortnite on their phones? That would give an "iOS Epic Store" a foot in the door, and while I'm not a huge fan of Epic, I think that would at least introduce some competition for Apple.

Re: Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Post by gowld »

ksec wrote: post #83

I am pretty sure I read something similar before. Probably from Benedict Evans or somewhere else. I think the most important issue from these email isn't the lack of Alternative App Store, IAP, or 70/30 split. It is that Apple Execs has Zero understanding of how other business works especially with respect to Internet or Software Services. They continue to think Netflix as a physical product ( As they often like to c…

Woz never seemed bad at teamwork. "Whole banana" was the results of jobs obession with dictatorial control, not the cause of it. Woz tried to add expansion ports to the Apple computer, but Jobs refused. Jobs seems to be throwing Woz under the bus (as usual) to deflect from his own flaws.

Re: Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Post by Ambroisie »

ramshanker wrote: post #14

I am of the opinion that the whole "Reader apps" concept itself was brought in to selectively please big and important players. The ones whose absence would diminish the value of iPhone. Indie developer's can't be expected to get same treatment.

What's a "reader app"?

Re: Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Post by modo_mario »

liquidify wrote: post #90
munificent wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better plan? How about we stop letting tech companies reach "monopoly scale"?

The market is globally competitive. How would expect tech companies to compete if you have policies that continuously place them at a disadvantage against global competitors. Tariffs don't solve these problems either. OP's suggestion is pretty decent idea relative to playing wack a mole with price fixing while trying to make sure your country's corps can compete on the global market.

>How would expect tech companies to compete if you have policies that continuously place them at a disadvantage against global competitors.

We can look at a map of most popular messaging apps per country in the light of todays downtime and see that they don't or they compete with themselves.

It also shows the only places where competition can grow to a scale where it can even hope to start competing and survive is where there's first a protectionist policy in place favoring domestic players.

Re: Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Post by [deleted] »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #106
saagarjha wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which also has special-case rules (or lack of enforcement thereof…)

This is glaringly evident at the very least in the way Apple and Google (don't) apply app store review to their own apps, so I don't understand why you're being downvoted.

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Re: Apple execs describe a “unique arrangement” with Netflix (2018)

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Post by cma »

Osiris wrote: post #5

That seems to undermine their "everyone is treated equally" argument.

This is an example of the "special friend" technique harmful platforms make use of (slide 40):

https://www.slideshare.net/danctheduck/gdc-2011-game-of-plat...

"First you sign long-term contracts with certain influential developers"

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