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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by Zambyte »

newswasboring wrote: post #125
plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

I wonder if this could be solved with having several YouTube's. The storage can be central but maybe there can be several legal and sanctioned ways to access the videos. We already have YouTube kids. Why not also open up the market to license YouTube storage and allow other companies to make clients. It's a half baked idea but I think it can work. Right now there is no difference between premium and non premium YouTu…

Peertube is the way to go.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by ggggtez »

Honestly boring. Likely just it got flagged as violence, and an underpaid 3rd world worker clicked a button.

Sorry about the inconvenience to this guy, but at the same time, it got 14 million views and I'm sure he made some cash. He can probably not whine so much. It's likely an honest mistake by someone overworked.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway09223 wrote: post #100
ZetaZero wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have enough disk space to archive every video I've every watched.

You probably do. Let's say you watch new and unique youtube videos for an hour a day, or 365 hours a year. (This is a lot more than I watch, btw) Let's say we have 5Mbps videos, or half a megabyte per second. 365 * 60 * 60 * 0.5 = 657G/year A 1TB disk is about $50, for about $25/year to store it at home. If you upload your videos to S3 Glacier it'll run around $8/year (per year, so after a few years this is more expe…

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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by carabiner »

mgdlbp wrote: post #99

The original video was at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKbU8B-QVZk The Wayback Machine archives YouTube videos. I don't know how it archives or determines which videos to archive, but it has a surprising number of popular videos (but also ones with only a few thousand views and not some of those with billions, possibly because they're so high-profile due to copyright?). It also archives the video only once (creat…

Looks like the video is back up. As always, going viral worked.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by sarbaz »

plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

As copyrighted material, it should be required that a copy be stored with library of Congress.

It used to be that LoC submission was part of the deal with copyright, but somehow we forgot that and important history has already been lost.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by newswasboring »

Zambyte wrote: post #131
newswasboring wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if this could be solved with having several YouTube's. The storage can be central but maybe there can be several legal and sanctioned ways to access the videos. We already have YouTube kids. Why not also open up the market to license YouTube storage and allow other companies to make clients. It's a half baked idea but I think it can work. Right now there is no difference between premium and non premium YouTu…

Peertube is the way to go.

I have not tried it out extensively but it has the same two problems that youtube competitors have. Library is smaller and it's not the same speed/quality. YouTube has a hold over our internet culture at this point and I think only a anti monopoly lawsuit can fix this.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by silicon2401 »

plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it.

I couldn't agree with this more. It's our culture and it's our life. Is it sad that so much of our lives is defined by consumption of media and staring at screens instead of being in touch with nature and living off the land or pursuing our own passions? Yeah, it is. But it is what it is. We are defined by our experiences, memories, and stories, and the only way to preserve digital media is to have a copy.

This is what got me into digital hoarding. I hated having so much emotional investment in things that I couldn't even access like old cartoons and movies, videos from youtube, or websites. Even worse when it's an old forum with conversations and activity from your teenage years, and the forum goes offline (this has happened to me with Bungie.net, though thankfully I was able to archive at least my gameplay stats).

I got 3 12TB hard drives this year (1 primary, 2 backups) and already see myself running out of room soon. It probably cost around $600 total, but it's been 100% worth it. I plan to expand in the near future to make sure I have plenty of room for everything I want without having to leave out anything that's really special. I love being able to re-live media experiences from my life, share them with loved ones, and even revisit moments that were defining for me in some way or another.

It's a shame that our culture is so based on consuming media. But the bright side is that it's the easiest kind of culture to preserve, compared to things like a physical book or dance, so I highly recommend others to check it out and be a part of the digital preservation world.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by janandonly »

throwaway09223 wrote: post #100
ZetaZero wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have enough disk space to archive every video I've every watched.

You probably do. Let's say you watch new and unique youtube videos for an hour a day, or 365 hours a year. (This is a lot more than I watch, btw) Let's say we have 5Mbps videos, or half a megabyte per second. 365 * 60 * 60 * 0.5 = 657G/year A 1TB disk is about $50, for about $25/year to store it at home. If you upload your videos to S3 Glacier it'll run around $8/year (per year, so after a few years this is more expe…

I like your thinking... but why hide a video on a private S3 bucket?

I was just thinking about this problem from a different angle.

What if everyone, or at least a bunch of willing souls, ran the following script on their on pc's:

1. YouTube-dlc every video you ever watch automatically in the background and save to NEW_VID directory

2. make a checksum of every file that comes into NEW_VID

3. Check by using the checksum if the file already exists on open platforms like https://joinpeertube.org, https://odysee.com or https://d.tube

4. If not, upload the file.

5. Delete the file.

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