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Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report

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Post by fuzzfactor »

hamburgerwah wrote: post #2

I don't know what else could make it any clearer but the world is already well into an AI terminator WW3.

Well, WWII has been over for a while now and if those who are dissatisfied with the outcome continue to be on the increase, there will eventually be enough of them who see no alternative to WW3 and become quite enthusiastic for such an event no matter how destructive.

There could already be critical mass among the dissatisfied they just don't have the resources to get the whole world involved.

Yet.

Re: Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report

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Post by hamburgerwah »

chollida1 wrote: post #3
hamburgerwah wrote: post #2

I don't know what else could make it any clearer but the world is already well into an AI terminator WW3.

> I don't know what else could make it any clearer but the world is already well into an AI terminator WW3. What does this even mean? You've combined 3 completely unrelated terms in Ai, terminator and WW3 to create, well I'm not sure what you mean here....

Dozens of countries are churning out and beginning to utilize fully autonomous killing machines.

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Post by uncoder0 »

throwaway984393 wrote: post #61
uncoder0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty trivial 'AI'. The headline mentioning AI is just for clickbait, in reality it was just a remotely-operated drone gun with a fire control system.

Most 'AI' is trivial. If spam detection had been invented today they'd call it "Spam AI".

You're not wrong. I'm gonna add AI to our pitch deck for our A probably will be able to raise an additional 40%.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #60
JackFr wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to NYT article the AI was used to compensate for the movement of the truck from the guns recoil and the 1.5 second round trip latency to the operator. Again according to the NYT what was astonishing was the accuracy. Fifteen rounds were shot and no one other than the target was injured. Of course, take it all with a grain of salt, as both Iran and Israel have reasons to lie about what actually went down. Is…

Don't really know how to feel about this. On one hand, it could mean less collateral damage and fewer civilian casualties than drone strikes. Just yesterday, the US had a drone strike that killed 10 civilians. The military and administration proceeded to lie about the strike and pretend they hit the target, but they were called out by the NY Times and had to backtrack. We could see fewer civilian deaths with technolo…

Nobody lied about the strike, it takes time to confirm you've fucked up, investigate, write a report, brief a general, etc.

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Post by sgregnt »

ianleeclark wrote: post #118
sgregnt wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two things ... First, we used not to blaim anyone without a due process....before you take a stand and blaime Israel, instead maybe you should argue to send inspectors to examine if the article is true, maybe it is not Israel or this never happened, did you follow a due process before publically assigning guilt? Second, who are "we", in your srnyense? The West, China? Iran, Hizbollah, Americans? UN? I recall no inspe…

> First, we used not to blaim anyone without a due process....before you take a stand and blaime Israel, instead maybe you should argue to send inspectors to examine if the article is true, maybe it is not Israel or this never happened, did you follow a due process before publically assigning guilt? If you want to say that something being reported by the NYT and corroborated by another paper isn't enough, feel free t…

You wrote:

> we used to have inspectors to do such thing

I understood it to mean that the inspectors would take care to prevent Iran nuclear weapons. Which I found to be a ridiculous claim but formally correct. The same way my claim that you should not trust NYT report in this case, before some due process is ridiculous.

For Cuba, I was referring to missile crisis between USSR and USA. It is always good to be well read thank you for your suggestion, but I think the quoted link to wikipedia is due to your misunderstanding ..

Beyond that, do we agree on this: Iran developes nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles to deliver these weapons, and openly threatens to destroy Israel and the scientist was a key figure in it.

If we agree to this, than we can move forward. Since my claim was that Israel thinks the scientist is an existential thread to its existence. Under such curcumstances, imo, in most cases any country would be willing to commit an act of war to eliminate the thread. The Cuba crisis is an example where US would be willing to start a nuclear war because it felt "uncomfortable" having USSR missiles near its borders. So I was asking when you say "We" who do you refer to?

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Post by deterministic »

Assassinating leaders individually seems to be a much more human solution to resolving conflicts compared with drone killing/bombing civilians or starting wars. Imagine if somebody had assassinated Hitler long before the 2nd World War had started.

Re: Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report

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Post by kbob »

popileviz wrote: post #56

Iran should have nuclear weapons if their citizens can be assassinated by foreign powers that proceed to brag about it openly. Imagine if the reverse happened - an Israeli scientist killed by Iranian special forces. The United States would be revving up for Iraq 2.0 in a matter of hours.

3.0? Don't forget the 1991 war.

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Post by kingofpandora »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #134
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't really know how to feel about this. On one hand, it could mean less collateral damage and fewer civilian casualties than drone strikes. Just yesterday, the US had a drone strike that killed 10 civilians. The military and administration proceeded to lie about the strike and pretend they hit the target, but they were called out by the NY Times and had to backtrack. We could see fewer civilian deaths with technolo…

Nobody lied about the strike, it takes time to confirm you've fucked up, investigate, write a report, brief a general, etc.

Do you believe they would have come clean if the media hadn't challenged their narrative first?

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Post by pengaru »

dogma1138 wrote: post #128
pengaru wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel seems likely to receive a similarly smuggled-in remotely-activated attack, in the form of a small nuclear bomb, with no clear evidence of who's responsible. MAD doesn't seem effective if you don't know who to attack...

MAD can still be effective if you say any non conventional attack by any actor would trigger it. That said MAD in this case isn’t viable due to the inequality in geographic size and population. A single warhead even a small one would cripple Israel complete whilst Iran can take multiple warheads and survive. A 50 kiloton warhead detonated over Tel Aviv would reduce Israel’s economy to basically nothing.

> MAD can still be effective if you say any non conventional attack by any actor would trigger it.

Isn't this a terrorist's wet dream?

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Post by 01100011 »

cududa wrote: post #62
_etyf wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers can buy similar off-the-shelf "smart" rifle scopes, marketed primarily for hunting: >The Eliminator LaserScope is the most innovative and effective hunting riflescope in the world. With the push of a button, the Eliminator IV ranges and displays the distance to the target (factoring in angle). It instantly calculates and displays the exact aiming point and wind data all inside the scope for complete situati…

Right but the actuator hardware stabilization includes a lot more like measuring and predicting preposition movements, calculating wind speed into the actuator, etc. This system gives a shooter the calibration data and they can adapt second to second. Replicating a brain for a truck mounted gun with a 1.5s latency is a 10x magnitude of complexity

> 10x magnitude of complexity

Yeah but if that 10x complexity jump is wrapped in an off-the-shelf facial recognition algorithm and some 30 year old motion control algorithms does it really matter?

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