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I think your comment is a bit dismissive. Facebook is not the first to encounter this, it happened 6/7 years ago and they should have known better. Secondly, if the Data Scientist working on this were all black, this would not have happened, just like the automatic soap dispensers in bathrooms.
What’s this about soap dispensers?
https://gizmodo.com/why-cant-this-soap-dispenser-identify-da...
I don't like these stories. It always trends towards the most inflammatory arguments, those being inherint bias and unconscious racism put upon our technology. Real issues in those topics aside, are any articles like this doing anything but feeding flames and generating ad revenue? Instead, I want to talk about pareidolia. Humans are social creatures. We have evolved to identify others of our kind and read their expr…
I don't like these stories. It always trends towards the most inflammatory arguments, those being inherint bias and unconscious racism put upon our technology. Real issues in those topics aside, are any articles like this doing anything but feeding flames and generating ad revenue? Instead, I want to talk about pareidolia. Humans are social creatures. We have evolved to identify others of our kind and read their expr…
The thing is that humans are generally excellent at these sorts of pattern recognition, but these networks aren't nearly as good. Even in rigorously trained networks that operate surprisingly well, mistakes will appear that if made by a human would be treated as due to carelessness or stupidity. So, this is going to happen.
Humans with a lot of experience are. Would kids be? I once referred to firefighter as robots as a kid.
The AI is very honest and innocent, it doesn't know what political correctness is. I've heard stories of parents whose kids would also mislabel a black human as a gorilla.
People need to learn to cope with the difference between innocent mistakes and expressions of genuine feelings of contempt/etc.
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The reason these companies don't fix these systems is because they don't know how. It is easier to remove certain outputs or retire the whole system. There is no line of code they can tweak.
[self-censored to prevent further downvotes because HN is downvoting me for what I said and the delete button is gone; sorry it seems discussion about solutions to racial issues isn't welcome here]
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That's sort of obvious. How do you know that wasn't attempted?
Even if it was fixed, in a probabilistic system like this, isn't it basically guaranteed to happen with some inputs?
I worked for another computer vision company, Clarifai that had the same issue. One of the employees noticed it and we retrained the model before it became public.
This is what amazes me. Given this exact thing has happened in the past and resulted in public humiliation of the companies involved, how did they not notice this? Why didn’t they check for it?
I don't like these stories. It always trends towards the most inflammatory arguments, those being inherint bias and unconscious racism put upon our technology. Real issues in those topics aside, are any articles like this doing anything but feeding flames and generating ad revenue? Instead, I want to talk about pareidolia. Humans are social creatures. We have evolved to identify others of our kind and read their expr…
Please do not trivialize acts that have the potential to cut humans so deep with handwavy substantiations. Facebook should have known better, and done better.