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Re: A big hurdle to fixing the chip shortage: substrates

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A meter seems to me linked to the human body just as much as the foot. "The metre was originally defined in 1793 as one ten-millionth of the distance from the equator to the North Pole along a great circle" That factor of ten is because we have ten fingers. There's no cosmic significance to ten or ten million. Or to the size of a line of longitude on our particular planet. And a meter is almost exactly a yard, or thr…

> There's no cosmic significance to ten or ten million. Cosmic? No. But social? For sure. 99.99% of math the layman will encounter is in base 10.

Picture some American saying there's no point in knowing languages other than English because 99.99% of the people you will encounter know it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth

Re: A big hurdle to fixing the chip shortage: substrates

#132
post #97

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The United States does not use "Imperial" units. We use some Customary Units that are defined in terms of SI units and share names with some Imperial units. The point is that saying "The United States uses Imperial Units" is, generously, ignorant.

yes - for example a US fluid Oz is different from everywhere else, as is a cup, a pint, a Venti (twenty what?) and many of the units used in cooking - using American recipes without translation can produce crap - Imperial fluid ounces are totally different largely due tax politics of the 1700/1800s

Venti is not a US Customary Unit.

Re: A big hurdle to fixing the chip shortage: substrates

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post #132

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yes - for example a US fluid Oz is different from everywhere else, as is a cup, a pint, a Venti (twenty what?) and many of the units used in cooking - using American recipes without translation can produce crap - Imperial fluid ounces are totally different largely due tax politics of the 1700/1800s

Venti is not a US Customary Unit.

No but it is one used in commerce ....

Customer: Venti? is that twenty in Italian?

SB Barista: yes

C: twenty what?

SBB: fluid ounces

C: can't be that, they use metric in Italy, must be litres or millilitres

SBB: litres

(at least that's what they usually answer when I try it)

Re: A big hurdle to fixing the chip shortage: substrates

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post #132

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Venti is not a US Customary Unit.

No but it is one used in commerce .... Customer: Venti? is that twenty in Italian? SB Barista: yes C: twenty what? SBB: fluid ounces C: can't be that, they use metric in Italy, must be litres or millilitres SBB: litres (at least that's what they usually answer when I try it)

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Re: A big hurdle to fixing the chip shortage: substrates

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No, there's nothing odd about the fact that units based on one set of measures become fractional when expressed in units of another measurement system. It just shows that neither is based on the other. And of course "the fractional scale is not unique to US Customary Units", since there is no fractional scale within that measurement system. Nor within any other, AFAIK. Your pound consists of an integer number of ounc…

The meter is based on a fraction of a second.

Naah. It's defined in terms of the second, nowadays, but it's based on the circumference of the Earth: The meter was originally defined as one ten-millionth of the distance between the equator and the poles.

Re: A big hurdle to fixing the chip shortage: substrates

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post #89

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> There's no cosmic significance to ten or ten million. Cosmic? No. But social? For sure. 99.99% of math the layman will encounter is in base 10.

Picture some American saying there's no point in knowing languages other than English because 99.99% of the people you will encounter know it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth

Thankfully we're slowly getting rid of that abomination and replacing it with something reasonable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_metric_screw_thread

A classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pikrntjcbyw

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