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Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs

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Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs

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What's your definition of "high capacity"? The biggest SMR drives I can buy are 6TB or 8TB. The biggest non-SMR drive I can buy is 18TB.

Harder to find because they obviously do not market this things towards consumers. Except when selling consumers SMR drives without telling them. ;) https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library...

Wow, both sold out and $40/TB.

And yeah that's why I said on the market rather than 'in existence'.

Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs

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Harder to find because they obviously do not market this things towards consumers. Except when selling consumers SMR drives without telling them. ;) https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library...

Wow, both sold out and $40/TB. And yeah that's why I said on the market rather than 'in existence'.

Enterprise prices are always negotiated in secret. We don't get to see what e.g. Facebook or Google pay for this devices.

Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs

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I used to work in their SSD vertical on the software side. For what it's worth, SSD/memory business unit is their pride. They never used to cut corners and do rigorous testing to ensure their customers aren't screwed over. Even when a bad batch of SSDs were shipped by mistake, they would recall/refund all of them proactively. When ever a new model is released, they would first ship limited units to a set of SSD enthu…

A better contrast is the night and day difference between Samsung SSDs and Samsung SD cards. The former are among best in class and the latter are among the worst in class and notorious for dying mighty fast in Raspberry Pis and DSLRs (going read-only). (Best SD cards are probably from Sandisk.)

I'm using a Samsung SD card on my OrangePi Zero for more than a year 7/24/365, and it's very stable so far.

However, nothing is as durable as SanDisk and Sony high end (Extreme Pro in SanDisk terminology) cards. My old CF is still kicking and a pair of 64GB cards in my mirrorless doesn't care what I pump into them (all of them are SanDisk).

Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs

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Even if they did review them well, most reviews are samples provided by manufacturer, and are performed on a single unit typically. If a manufacturer is willing to swap components in batches of products, they're willing to try to cheat reviewers too.

It's important for reviewers to keep their eye on what people are saying about a product. I after they review something, user reviews don't line up, they should purchase a unit themselves and redo their testing. If the testing shows a change, then they should both shame the company and stop accepting review units from that division of the company so they can be sure they're not getting hand-picked samples.

In an ideal world yes but I don't think I've ever experienced reviews being done like this. Rtings purchase their own units but still would run afoul of swapping xomponents in lines. Reviews of live service video games are rarely updated unless something drastic changes (see the Destiny 2 issues where they pulled old content from the game...)

Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs

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This is actually better for most consumers. The SLC cache was increased nearly three fold and the controller is a superior one (it now uses the same one as the 980 PRO). TechPowerUp[0] has a much better post on this, and you can clearly see there that the new one is better in most cases than the old one. The only ones disadvantaged by this change are people who constantly write >42GB which I would think are video edi…

What Samsung should have done it change the name and call it the "971 Evo Plus SSD" or "970 Evo Gold SSD" or some such change that distinguishes this new product with different performance characteristics than the actual "970 Evo Plus SSD".

But no they want to benefit from the good name and customer perception of the "970 Evo Plus SSD" while selling a substantially different product under that name. That is fraudulent behavior!

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