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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by evancox100 »

pacbard wrote: post #82
haasted wrote: post #30

Isn't "OnlyFans without sexual content" basically Patreon?

I guess they offer similar subscription services but it seems to me (at least) that they serve completely different niches. For example, if a content creator says "check out my OnlyFans for subscriber-only content" versus "check out my Patreon for subscriber-only content", I would expect that they are selling completely different things. Another parallel could be comparing HomeDepot and HobbyLobby. Both stores sell y…

Ya, you’d suspect one is selling porn and one isn’t, at least that’s what I would have done.

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Post by NoOneNew »

CabSauce wrote: post #100
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

Absolutely, and that has always been the case, even in vocations. There was a time where being a tv or vacuum repairman was a pretty good, middle class-ish job. Then the times came where that's not really the case. Picking a career path does have a little bit of luck in it, but that's like thinking it's lucky to not hit a door when going through a doorway. If you stop, think and open the door, you're less likely to get hit by a door, even though that doesn't guarantee it.

And yes, this is coming from a guy who has been smacked in the face by someone else opening the door on me. Same with picking a poor career choice pre housing crash in 2008. Adapt and overcome.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by actually_a_dog »

CabSauce wrote: post #100
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

That's basically shooting at a moving target, though.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by onlyfansfan »

SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #110
onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

Investments aren’t loans, so you don’t have to pay it back the way a loan might be.

Thanks, I guess I was wrong on that count. It makes sense.

The first part continues to baffle me. If I have a proven profit of $X/year and I have the market captured (speaking on the order of 10% or 50%, doesn't matter), how does it make sense to seek investment in the order of 100*X? What's the goal? Why not just keep milking the proven cash cow and stop growing and risking?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by the_only_law »

thebooktocome wrote: post #109
CabSauce wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

There are about three fields like that now. The median bachelor's degree in math or physics obtained in 2021 is basically worthless.

Just curious what you would say those fields are.

Off the top of my head CS is steadily looking like one of the only degrees worth anything and I’d still argue the value of that given the prevalence of self taught developers. Decent starting salaries for the most part, and very good starting salaries if you’re particularly good at certain things and an otherwise unheard of ceiling. Though I’m generalizing at the moment, I feel the industry is more complex than that.

Nursing seems ok. Salaries appear good at first, but the nurses I know also work ungodly hours.

Some traditional engineering fields seem ok in terms of employability, but wages don’t seem that great and many of the roles I’ve seen in those fields want a MS/MEng.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

d3nj4l wrote: post #104
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe? The timeline suggests that they got some sort of assurance from banks they work with, they will not not be bothered. Founder just blamed banks for the whole thing the other day. https://people.com/human-interest/onlyfans-founder-says-bank...

I struggle to imagine any bank suddenly deciding they're OK with adult content after all. Apart from the moral outrage risks (like the ones OnlyFans itself has been facing wrt the literal kids on their platform), they don't want to accidentally run afoul of sex trafficking laws either. There's just too many risks in adult content. It's really surprising OnlyFans got as far as it did with adult content. Plus, somethin…

I mostly agree with analysis.

I am not sure I agree with 'suddently' characterization. They are not suddenly OK with it. Founder complained to their peer at the financial institution. Onlyfans was probably trying to take care of it internally for a good while ( CYA applies at most financial institutions so it was taking longer than most businesses are used to ). It was only after media outburst that an executive decision was made.

I am relatively certain that behind the scenes, the case of Onlyfans was argued by compliance, legal, PR, sales and their personal rep.

"It's really surprising OnlyFans got as far as it did with adult content."

I am not. You are not allowed to touch lgbtq+ community now. They are way too vocal and companies too scared to agitate them. And a fair amount of complaints came from them.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by [deleted] »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #103
immmmmm wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a good friend of mine is a sex worker, a cam girl to be precise, and uses OF as it is safer than other platforms. it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual and do this job due to severe psychiatric problems that prevent her doing more "normal" jobs. she feeds one child with this money, as a lot of sex workers that are also loving moms. it is important that such platforms do exist (if they implement proper…

> it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual it should NOT be noted. Too many good people died in the wars of past centuries to get us to the freedom and liberty we enjoy today to let any fundamentalists dictate what a normal job is and who works it. Sex work is work and if you dislike it you'd might enjoy Afghanistan these days.

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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by thebooktocome »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #123
thebooktocome wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are about three fields like that now. The median bachelor's degree in math or physics obtained in 2021 is basically worthless.

A bachelors in math or physics from a decent school should indicate that you have the capacity to learn difficult concepts, work with data, and you should have some experience with programming.

Sorry, but that doesn't translate into employability in 2021.

I have mentored math and physics students for six years now and even the good ones are having an increasingly hard time finding employment, and not for lack of trying. It's not uncommon to hear of seniors sending, say, 100 applications only to get ghosted on 99 of them.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by toomuchtodo »

rayiner wrote: post #128
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

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Well, not just elites. This is the policy everyone voted for: less taxes (causing young folks to go heavily into debt for worthless degree credentials), less social safety nets, a generational wealth transfer from the young to the old.

The results are exactly what you’d expect, and older generations should absolutely be worried when their cohort has shrunk through death to a minority voting bloc.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by actually_a_dog »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #123
thebooktocome wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are about three fields like that now. The median bachelor's degree in math or physics obtained in 2021 is basically worthless.

A bachelors in math or physics from a decent school should indicate that you have the capacity to learn difficult concepts, work with data, and you should have some experience with programming.

Try convincing the median HR drone of that.
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