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How Does FaceTime Work?

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Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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The benefit of FaceTime being an open standard.

It’s not an open standard

Nor does it currently work in Firefox. Hence the continuation of the joke.

It was originally announced as an open standard, though. Anyone who remembers Steve Jobs would have caught on. It is easy for us old-timers to forget how long ago that was now, so I extend my apologies to the youngsters.

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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Semi-related question since I'm looking to get my grandma setup. Waffling between an iPhone and iPad, maybe an iPad mini but don't know if the air would be better (lighter I think). What device does your grandma use to FaceTime? Do you know does she do anything else with it?

I think a bigger device/screen is easier for older people to use. I think they can struggle a lot with typing on a smaller phone screen, as well as the font and overall display size.

Just FYI in the accessibility settings there's options for increasing the text size and input options for people with mobility/dexterity issues. A larger screen of an iPad makes for physically larger targets but you can also zoom the UI.

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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I think it is unfair to label a platform with a two hundred dollar entry barrier as an equalizer. VoIP and allied technologies are the real enablers and ad-supported platforms like WhatsApp et al. have been true equalizers by allowing anyone to communicate with anyone at marginal costs. The ease of picking up the phone and calling somebody with no consideration of cost has enabled so many people to connect and commun…

> I think it is unfair to label a platform with a two hundred dollar entry barrier as an equalizer. Even in poor areas, lots of people are walking around with iPhones. $200-500 gadgets are not out of the range of poor people. That works out to less than a dollar a day. One time amortized expenses aren't that much of a barrier, from what I've seen. The real barriers the poor face are things like high rents, high medic…

About a quarter of the world's population lives on less than $3.20 per day. [1] $200-500 is a lot of money to billions of people.

[1] https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2018/10/17/n...

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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In Brazil a new iPhone 6 costs about two months of the national average raw income, while a cheap Android alternative would be about 1/3rd to 1/4th of an average monthly salary.

Does average monthly salary mean much if the majority is really poor? Assuming you are middle class, here. Also: you probably mean iPhone 12. The 6 is quite old. I remember my 6 very well as I fell on my motorcycle and I pulled this banana shaped phone out of my pocket.

News flash the $399 model is based off 6 or 7

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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Semi-related question since I'm looking to get my grandma setup. Waffling between an iPhone and iPad, maybe an iPad mini but don't know if the air would be better (lighter I think). What device does your grandma use to FaceTime? Do you know does she do anything else with it?

I think a bigger device/screen is easier for older people to use. I think they can struggle a lot with typing on a smaller phone screen, as well as the font and overall display size.

I second this. I bought iPads for my parents and in-laws and I gave them the choice between iPad Mini and iPad thinking they will prefer mini because it's lighter. Both of them chose iPad precisely because it has a larger screen. I don't think it was just because of the ease of typing.

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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Yes but a practical new Android phone with reasonable spec (I don't mean cheap Chinese oems with 1gb ram) can be had for $100 and can run WhatsApp/signal fine. The cheapest iphone is $399 iirc, the high entry costs that disqualifies a lot of people even in the US and certainly abroad where apple tax difference compare to base currency of usd399 exceeds regional sales tax differences (mexico for example)

In Brazil a new iPhone 6 costs about two months of the national average raw income, while a cheap Android alternative would be about 1/3rd to 1/4th of an average monthly salary.

Brazil is such an outlier. I wonder why Bolsenaro didn't do anything about the insane import duties in Brazil. And don't get me started on the difficulty in using financial services there.

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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FaceTime is amazing. I keep in touch with my entire family using FaceTime video, often across thousands of kilometers. It's also such an equalizer, allowing even the non-computer literate to use it and focus on the actual conversations. In fact, my 103 year old grandmother is able to do video calls with me, which is great because I rarely see her in person these days. I don't think there exists an alternative she wou…

Unfortunately, calls with more than two people seem to fall apart quickly if the network connection isn't perfect, even where Meets, Zoom, etc. work flawlessly.

Agreed. For me, the hallmark of a good system is being able to forget that I'm using it. That has never happened to me with Facetime.

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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> For those of you old enough to remember landlines, it reminds me of those [...] When we all switched to cell service audio quality took a huge hit I don't understand - are landline phones not in use anymore? I only use a landline phone to communicate with the family, because I simply cannot stand the audio quality of cellphones for calls which last longer than a few minutes. Edit: In Germany, there are about 40 M a…

Landlines have been digitized too, a distinct difference to what an analog landline offered. It was more intimate, you could hear breathing for example.

Why does digitization affect breathing sound? Isn't that because of the position of mic of landline phones?

Re: How Does FaceTime Work?

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I remember back in the day when FaceTime was announced Apple made a big deal about it using standard protocols throughout the stack ( SIP and maybe WebRTC?) and dangled the hope that there could be 3rd party apps that connected with FaceTime. We were so young and naive then.

Facebook and Google also did that with XMPP.
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