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Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by b112 »

Ichthypresbyter wrote: post #90
Zababa wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's the same in France, we call it the "droit du sol".

Not quite. Children born in France only get French citizenship from birth if at least one parent either is a French citizen or was born in France. Otherwise, there are various processes for them to acquire citizenship later in life if they spend enough of their childhood in France. In contrast, almost any child born in the US, regardless of the nationality or immigration status of the parents, is a citizen automatica…

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Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by ghola2k5 »

morpheos137 wrote: post #130
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #120

Don't go. My young friend went on contract for a year, doing fishery research. After a few months they said "We aren't going to pay you any more. You can't leave because the boat won't come back until {whenever}. And if you say anything, we won't give you the recommendation you need as a young researcher doing a PhD." She had to stay for months working for nothing. It's slavery, and they know it, and that's how it wo…

she went on a contract. Why did she expect a raise?

"she had to stay for months working for nothing" - looks like it wasn't a raise she way after, but they stopped paying her at all?

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by ipaddr »

pjc50 wrote: post #117
antihero wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the difference is that as a UK citizen, I have been paying into the social security and health system for my entire working life, as opposed to the brief time someone was here to work. Though it is kind of dumb.

So you think 18 year olds shouldn't be allowed access to the NHS until they've worked for a year or paid a surcharge? (Obviously not, that's nonsense, but that's the conclusion that would follow from the false premise of predicating healthcare on length of payments. It's pensions that are dependent on payins of National Insurance.)

Wouldn't parents pay in for those 18 years?

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by perilunar »

00deadbeef wrote: post #72
Huffers2 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Falklands is much closer to Argentina though - they should belong to Argentina by right of proximity.

France is closer to the UK than the Falklands are to Argentina (35km vs almost 500km). Should France belong to the UK?

It's not even clear that all of the UK should belong to the UK

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by hungryforcodes »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #120

Don't go. My young friend went on contract for a year, doing fishery research. After a few months they said "We aren't going to pay you any more. You can't leave because the boat won't come back until {whenever}. And if you say anything, we won't give you the recommendation you need as a young researcher doing a PhD." She had to stay for months working for nothing. It's slavery, and they know it, and that's how it wo…

Who can say it's even the truth though. Do you have a reference? For sure she would have filed complaint or something. It's super convenient no one has questioned you on this...

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by [deleted] »

Huffers2 wrote: post #68
hef19898 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never mind already back in the 80s and 90s the British population of the Falklands preferred to remain a part of the UK. Nevermind Argentina invaded the Falklands and was ultimately repulsed. No idea where the idea that the Falklands belong to Argentina comes from. The only meaningful population of the islands ever was and is British. Which makes the comparison to HK and Taiwan somewhat pointless, nevermind that Taiw…

Falklands is much closer to Argentina though - they should belong to Argentina by right of proximity.

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Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

hungryforcodes wrote: post #135
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #120

Don't go. My young friend went on contract for a year, doing fishery research. After a few months they said "We aren't going to pay you any more. You can't leave because the boat won't come back until {whenever}. And if you say anything, we won't give you the recommendation you need as a young researcher doing a PhD." She had to stay for months working for nothing. It's slavery, and they know it, and that's how it wo…

Who can say it's even the truth though. Do you have a reference? For sure she would have filed complaint or something. It's super convenient no one has questioned you on this...

I understand doubt, you don't know me. But I'm not sure what you want?

She's now an officer in my son's startup.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

cookieswumchorr wrote: post #125
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #120

Don't go. My young friend went on contract for a year, doing fishery research. After a few months they said "We aren't going to pay you any more. You can't leave because the boat won't come back until {whenever}. And if you say anything, we won't give you the recommendation you need as a young researcher doing a PhD." She had to stay for months working for nothing. It's slavery, and they know it, and that's how it wo…

she had to stay, ok. but why keep working? Jobs can be scarce on an island but maybe you can find something that pays more than zero. Or work remote. Or just take vacation if you have some reserve

The recommendation, remember? The research? She was a PhD student.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

b112 wrote: post #126
aww_dang wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you say who held the contract?

It would. And after their hold on her was over, she should have screamed to the hills. While I get the reluctance, at the same time, not yelling about it means others get burned. That's just plain wrong.

Her professor counseled her against reporting. They needed the contact to get PhD students positions and recommendations. Reporting it online meant throwing up obstacles to herself for holding other academic positions.

A PhD student is hostage against the system.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

ghola2k5 wrote: post #132
morpheos137 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

she went on a contract. Why did she expect a raise?

"she had to stay for months working for nothing" - looks like it wasn't a raise she way after, but they stopped paying her at all?

Yes
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