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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Maybe they shouldn't charge $15/month for a product that's incomplete. The only reason I'm not the target audience here is because I won't use a subscription-based browser, much less one that has fewer features than my current browser. I respect people who build software, but you have to get pricing right if you want people to care. > I wonder what it is about hacker news that brings out this incessant negativity in…

Agreed. The subscription pricing model alone is an instant disqualifier. $15 for a one-time purchase? I'd absolutely consider it. $15/month? Never.

The comparison of one time vs subscription wouldn't be $15 vs $15 but more like $500 vs $15.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Thanks for the feedback! Will make the change to the form so it covers your case. Regarding the login flow, would you use Google Sign-In if we had it?

I type in my email and click "Login" and nothing happens. No visual indicator, nothing. Just sits there and lets me keep clicking the "Login" button.

Hey, that shouldn't be happening :(

Have you signed up? If you have and it's still not working, email me at saurav@sigmaos.com with the email address you used, and I can look into it.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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What made you decide to build it from scratch? By following a different system you're leaving a lot of free work on the table. For example, I extensively use Vimium, Dark Reader, Stylus, TamperMonkey, and LastPass. By doing it from scratch, all of those extensions would need to be re-implemented in the SigmaOS API. I love the idea of SigmaOS but I can't abandon Chrome/Firefox if I can't have LastPass, for example.

Whoops, I might have not explained myself properly. I'm implementing the Chrome extensions API from scratch. When I'm done, you'll have access to all of your Chrome extensions!

Oh perfect. Thanks! Great work on the project by the way

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Since a couple of comments have made the comparison to Vivaldi, I thought I'd chime in, having used Vivaldi as my primary browser for 3-4 years now. Vivaldi's extreme customizability and rich feature sets makes it possible to mimic the functionality described here. (I love organizing tabs vertically on the left, something only Vivaldi was doing.)

In another comment, the original poster mentioned that the keyboard shortcut to close a tab isn't cmd+w, because they don't want users to think about them as "tabs" and don't want to think about "closing" them, they're trying to organize things as items in a TODO list.

The value that this provides then, isn't in actual features. All of these features can at least be mimicked in other browsers, either natively in Vivaldi's case, or with extensions and OS features. This browser's value would be in streamlined usability and new way of thinking about organizing things. For that reason, Hacker News in general isn't really the target market. Power-users don't want a new way of thinking about browsing or a streamlined experience, they want the customizability of Vivaldi.

I think the marketing here needs to re-framed from focusing on "faster at your work," comparisons to vim, and extolling the virtues of keyboard shortcuts. The people that are interested in that are using Vivaldi or Vieb (https://vieb.dev) or have their own Firefox setup configured just right. You should focus on providing an opinionated way to organize and simplify browsing, letting the browser handle tab management. Reminders for tabs I think is a good idea that no other browser is doing. But can I make reminders for arbitrary text content? A 'browser with keyboard shortcuts' has been done before. A 'browser that is also a TODO list' is more interesting.

Just my 2 cents.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#136

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Whoops, I might have not explained myself properly. I'm implementing the Chrome extensions API from scratch. When I'm done, you'll have access to all of your Chrome extensions!

Oh perfect. Thanks! Great work on the project by the way

Thanks!

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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post #124

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Agreed. The subscription pricing model alone is an instant disqualifier. $15 for a one-time purchase? I'd absolutely consider it. $15/month? Never.

The comparison of one time vs subscription wouldn't be $15 vs $15 but more like $500 vs $15.

In what world is a browser worth $500? For comparison, a complete operating system (eg. windows) has cost around $200, and this was applicable even in windows 98 days, before microsoft was trying to monetize it using ads/telemetry.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Oh wow! You’ve built a social network and integrated it into the browser, I can’t wait to see the potential of surveillance capitalism to advertise everything I ever wanted to me with SigmaOS!

Haha, no intention to build a social network here. Just a way to send pages to people, targeted for work.

And to be frank, SigmaOS does not and will never allow advertising to our users through the app.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#139
The negativity in this thread is extremely distasteful. :/

Just want to say, I think what can differentiate this from other browsers + extensions will come down to how well-integrated all of it is. Tab fatigue for work browsers is real and if this helps solve that, then it's worth it. From what I see on your landing page, the UX / workflow looks extremely attractive.

Couple of things,

a) I do think the $15 per month is a bit too high for my use case - this is the same price as Intellij - which provides enormous value (edit: over alternatives). b) there does not appear to be any dev tooling at least on your landing page.

Both of those together probably means I'm not going to use it, but hope you find your niche market. Good luck!

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#140

Honestly, this just seems like a cheap rip-off of Vivaldi. All of the features(yes, all of them) are already present in Vivaldi, including the split screen, tree style tabs, sync, global search, full keyboard support. Slapping some UI makeup on top of an already existing product does not warrant a hefty fee of $15 in my view. Also, I don't see any proof that my data is secure. For all I know, you guys will sell off m…

I wonder what it is about hacker news that brings out this incessant negativity in people. Have you considered that: - This product might only be a couple of months old and they have bigger plans for it over the next year? - The founders don't have all the answers and they're learning just as much as we are right now? - Even though YOU might not see enough value to warrant the price tag, there might be people (or bus…

I don’t see the point of building for the sake of building.
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