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Perhaps we should also rise again the question about who controls own computer because any abuse starts there. Only full control over own device can prevent abuses. Especially when device comes any close to definition of being personal. You should be able to install own software on the personal device. Including os and bios/firmware.
*laughs in Minix land
Pushing Spyware Engine is literally abuse to all people including children and it's much worse then any problem they would claim to fight. Even if you believe them. By this move people are indoctrinated with the idea that being watched by someone big and powerful is Ok. They learn to accept such abuse and what can be worse for any safety of anyone than learning that? If one is serious about any safety one should lear…
So this one time I was tasked to verify a complaint of child pornography and image the infrastructure for evidentiary purposes, if necessary. It was the first time I’d ever been exposed to it as a naïve operations kid at a hosting provider. Imagine my surprise and horror to find that not only was the complaint accurate, it led to a completely polished thumbnail site on par with PornHub. Boom, right there, no login. N…
My opinion about: 1. Every pedophile know about the existence of this system, so I don't think it will be useful to fight those monster, maybe only marginally; 2. Anyway, is that legal ? Even if some crazy store material on his Apple hardware isn't that illegal search non usable in law courts ? 3. Child abuse is often used as Trojan horse to introduce questionable practice. What if: - the system is used to looking fo…
Of course it would be possible to implement content search, profiling and reporting mechanisms for such content, but this seems to be a singularly bad platform for that sort of search. The image profiles are part of the OS so there's no mechanism to deliver image profiles separately for different countries. Also when the threshold number of matching images is reached, the matches are reported to a manual reviewer at…
I want to also point out that A/V companies never said they were going to scan for child abuse images on your computer and report you if they found any.
Like you said, the optics are terrible.
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> once this system is in place it will be used for anything, not just photos The system seems designed to make it hard to use it for anything else. How will a hash driven by a visual perception based neural net be used on ZIP files? How can you add ZIP files to your iCloud Photo Library? Sure, Apple could possibly do any number of bad and worse things. It’s a matter of trust that every time we update our iPhones that…
I think the main issue is just that Pandora's box is now open. Once you make this move, you can't go backwards. If you'll indulge me, would you bet $1000 that this style of scanning isn't expanded in the next 3 years to include non-CSAM content?
An Apple recruiter recently reached out to me. I am in a fortunate position to turn down opportunities, so I made sure to explain that I am not interested in working for a company that is at the forefront of enabling further infringement on people's privacy. If you are able to push back, do it in any small way that you can.
My opinion about: 1. Every pedophile know about the existence of this system, so I don't think it will be useful to fight those monster, maybe only marginally; 2. Anyway, is that legal ? Even if some crazy store material on his Apple hardware isn't that illegal search non usable in law courts ? 3. Child abuse is often used as Trojan horse to introduce questionable practice. What if: - the system is used to looking fo…
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Of course it would be possible to implement content search, profiling and reporting mechanisms for such content, but this seems to be a singularly bad platform for that sort of search. The image profiles are part of the OS so there's no mechanism to deliver image profiles separately for different countries. Also when the threshold number of matching images is reached, the matches are reported to a manual reviewer at…
Apple should just scan the pictures that are in iCloud (their servers). They just assumed that if you have the iCloud option enabled on your device that it gave them the right to do the scan on your phone/computer. I want to also point out that A/V companies never said they were going to scan for child abuse images on your computer and report you if they found any. Like you said, the optics are terrible.
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> Nobody except of a tiny group of nerdy guys I think you oversimplify this by a lot. No, Apple reputation won't be severely damaged by this move immediately. But I do believe that those "nerdy guys" did a lot to push the Apple brand, and a big part of that push was due to security and privacy. Until recently Apple was always the "privacy brand" and it was hard to argue against it without going the full FSF route of…
> But I do believe that those "nerdy guys" did a lot to push the Apple brand We sure did. We're also ignoring all the celebrities that helped to push the Apple brand (remember the iPod and it's terrible but iconic white headphones?). Popular culture has a much stronger influence on Apple's standing with non-nerds, than nerds do. We like to think we're important, and that people value our opinions, but increasingly th…
"We" are the people that support, recommend and install this stuff. Hardware just has longer life cycles.
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So this one time I was tasked to verify a complaint of child pornography and image the infrastructure for evidentiary purposes, if necessary. It was the first time I’d ever been exposed to it as a naïve operations kid at a hosting provider. Imagine my surprise and horror to find that not only was the complaint accurate, it led to a completely polished thumbnail site on par with PornHub. Boom, right there, no login. N…
So, just because there are sick and terrible people, we should give away our freedom and privacy?
“So, just because children are being raped, we should give away our freedom and privacy?”
...your ground wouldn’t be as perceptibly firm, even though it’s exactly the question you’re asking. I’m also not going to respond because of the obvious incongruity and false dichotomy of the question, that aside. To be honest, I’d rather you have kept that question to yourself, and I’d go further and speculate that sentiment would apply to most opinions you hold.
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Of course it would be possible to implement content search, profiling and reporting mechanisms for such content, but this seems to be a singularly bad platform for that sort of search. The image profiles are part of the OS so there's no mechanism to deliver image profiles separately for different countries. Also when the threshold number of matching images is reached, the matches are reported to a manual reviewer at…
Apple should just scan the pictures that are in iCloud (their servers). They just assumed that if you have the iCloud option enabled on your device that it gave them the right to do the scan on your phone/computer. I want to also point out that A/V companies never said they were going to scan for child abuse images on your computer and report you if they found any. Like you said, the optics are terrible.
End result is the same. Difference is, that now Apple has very limited access to your images. You can only trust in closed systems. When you step into the Apple ecosystem, you are giving a lot of trust.
> I want to also point out that A/V companies never said they were going to scan for child abuse images on your computer and report you if they found any.
Why would they say, if it is perfectly legal to do anyway. They literally scan every file, so no need to mention anything specific which could lead only for negative PR.