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1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by thallavajhula »

FreezerburnV wrote: post #50

I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…

I've been using 1Password for 3 years now. Been paying $35/year and I'm with you on this one. I really like their service. The integrations are great. I rarely use their Mac app. I use my Apple Watch to unlock 1Password in my browser. That for me, is a game changer. It's such a seamless experience. I'm a happy customer and I love the service.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by dylan604 »

gumby wrote: post #73
_2d30 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does one check if an app running on a mac is native or electron?

If you can’t tell the difference it doesn’t matter and I wouldn’t worry about it. Electron apps typically don’t work for me because they don’t integrate with the rest of the system cleanly, and so once you stray off the designers’ happy path it becomes clumsy to use the app. This isn’t an esthetic or ideological argument; simply for my usage an electron app can rarely be as convenient as a native app on the Mac. Thin…

Just because a user can't tell the difference doesn't mean we shouldn't call out the fact that it is. Electron apps use way too many system resources. For lower powered devices, this becomes an issue.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by mynameisvlad »

evgen wrote: post #106
yesimahuman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is ridiculous. Electron works great, and if this leads to more frequent updates and a more consistent experience across platforms, that's a win for users. 1Password's Windows client, for example, has always felt behind the Mac edition, and if this brings parity and a higher feature and update velocity, that's a win. I have at least three Electron apps open right now and they are all great experiences that the va…

Electron is a pile of shit and _every_ Electron app I am forced to use should be a source of continuous shame for any dev who actually worked on it. This has nothing to do with improving features or service and is completely about increasing revenue and improving the sort of numbers investors like to see -- driven entirely by the fact that AgileBits has recently closed a B round and needs to show more revenue to just…

VS Code would like a word with you.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by donohoe »

I love 1Password but the subscription-only path doesn't sit well with me. They're intentionally removing key features so they can justify providing a service that I can do myself.

I'm increasingly sick of good standalone software suddenly moving to this model. They are a business, I get it.

However how many subscriptions are we going to have to end up with?

I get it with Slack, Dropbox, Github, etc as they all started with infrastructure to run. But 1Password (and Adobe and others) are pushing profits far far above their users. It's a shame.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by selykg »

jonpurdy wrote: post #100
maxharris wrote: post #7

1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

I recently cancelled Evernote after 12 years of paying for it due to their new Electron client. I've been using 1Password since 2008 and I'll be doing the same thing. I have tolerated the UI regressions and even subscription with version 7, but Electron is just unacceptable for what was once an amazing Mac app that put Apple's apps to shame.

I hate Electron as much as the next guy, but man have I been enjoying Obsidian. I mention this only because it has changed the way I write notes and manage them and I've been through the path of Evernote > Apple Notes > Bear > Obsidian.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by InTheArena »

Justsignedup wrote: post #58
InTheArena wrote: post #36

I am a big fan of 1password. I was very unhappy with the transition to subscription only, and tried bitwarden. After months of futzing around with it, I went back to 1password. I did so after reviewing their audit results, awhat they documented about their architecture, and after they added great support for Linux. At the end of the day, not everything is a conspiracy - and their model appears to be incredibly secure…

I did not realize LastPass has access to your passwords...

sorry, quick correction. It was dashlane. https://blog.dashlane.com/virginia-tech-passwords-study/

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by InTheArena »

xondono wrote: post #92
InTheArena wrote: post #36

I am a big fan of 1password. I was very unhappy with the transition to subscription only, and tried bitwarden. After months of futzing around with it, I went back to 1password. I did so after reviewing their audit results, awhat they documented about their architecture, and after they added great support for Linux. At the end of the day, not everything is a conspiracy - and their model appears to be incredibly secure…

> That said, people arguing that lastpass is better then 1password, given that lastpass has access to your passwords Don’t get me wrong, I hate Lastpass with an unprecedented rage for something that should be a simple utility (I’m forced to use it at work and it’s a time sink), but I don’t know where you get that and would like a source.

sorry, quick correction. It was dashlane. https://blog.dashlane.com/virginia-tech-passwords-study/

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by dylan604 »

judge2020 wrote: post #98
xuki wrote: post #51

The writing was on the wall when they took VC money[1]. Anyone has a good guide to move to Bitwarden/Lastpass? [1] https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/14/fourteen-years-after-launc...

https://bitwarden.com/help/article/import-from-1password/ I'd only recommend LastPass if you're a fan of LogMeIn, Ltd. and only being able to see your passwords either on Desktop or Mobile (on the free version).

Sorry, but where else other than Desktop or Mobile are there to view data?

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by weaksauce »

evgen wrote: post #106
yesimahuman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is ridiculous. Electron works great, and if this leads to more frequent updates and a more consistent experience across platforms, that's a win for users. 1Password's Windows client, for example, has always felt behind the Mac edition, and if this brings parity and a higher feature and update velocity, that's a win. I have at least three Electron apps open right now and they are all great experiences that the va…

Electron is a pile of shit and _every_ Electron app I am forced to use should be a source of continuous shame for any dev who actually worked on it. This has nothing to do with improving features or service and is completely about increasing revenue and improving the sort of numbers investors like to see -- driven entirely by the fact that AgileBits has recently closed a B round and needs to show more revenue to just…

how do you think the bitwarden client is made?
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