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Re: When Patents Attack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But we were talking about patents in general . And those are quite old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent#History -> "Patents in the modern sense originated in 1474" And of course, the Watt's steam engines patents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watt#Patents

And I'm calling out that the article was about software pattents being possibly bad and the response was simply, "no, patents are good" without any real substance.

Some bad things are so obviously good that you don't have to provide substance. Examples: the "protection" of intellectual "property", GDP growth, and even death (which somehow gives meaning to life).

Also, they made a general statement, which we could have dismissed thus: "OK, the patent system is a net good. But _software_ patents are definitely bad [a few decades of overwhelming evidence]". This is generally what we see here an HN.

However, I think we can attack their statements more directly, as "Against Intellectual Monopoly" did. I also think we should do so, instead of just defending our corner of the industry. My current position is, the concept of patent is broken at its core. It simply doesn't work, never did, never will. Hey, I even heard that the first patent systems actually were disguised trade barriers, meant to protect the established, local industry. At that, they did work.

Re: When Patents Attack

#132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there will be a "Finlandization" of software development (concept courtesy of Chris Crawford's classic "Balance of Power" game) where small devs and dev shops align with larger, protective entities that provide defensive protection in exchange for association with the aura of small, indy developers. Think (evilly): Myrhvold's IV Labs or Apple or Microsoft or IBM offers a "Friends of IV/Apple/MSFT/IBM" pro…

Just to set the record straight: a game developer didn't come up with the concept of Finlandization. The term was long used by scholars in geopolitics to refer to the situation of Finland, which although internally free, had aspects of its foreign policy more or less dictated by the Soviet Union.

You are correct...I should have said "my introduction to the concept" was courtesy of the game Balance of Power. Which is interesting, but perhaps not HN comment-worthy.

Re: When Patents Attack

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post #69

The solution is very simple. Create a simple how to patent template website, then have every developer apply for patents on any business and software process that they can dream of. Within two years you'll choke the entire system into change. Make it impossible for anyone to do anything. 1st idea, the collection, aggregation, and transmittal of electronic messaging data during a waste evacuation process. (i.e. checki…

To the extent that the system is choked it means that the Patent Office grants patents without having the time to look at them, not that a backlog develops. You might notice that this has already happened.

of course that is happening. Even worse is that the people examining the patents are not best and under qualified to review software patents.

Re: When Patents Attack

#134

Did anyone else click the "someone patented toast" link and actually read the claims? It's for toasting bread at 2,500-4,500 degrees, with specialized infrared ovens.

I have read somewhere that patent description are often deceitful. The abstract can be intentionally misleading and the wording in your case seems to be too.

Re: When Patents Attack

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [...] they accidentally infringe on a patent I hate to break it to you, but chances are that you infringe on hundreds, if not more, patents in the US. Nobody can tell you what or even how many patents you infringe on, though. Nobody has read all the patents and every single one is subject to interpretation. An interpretation, I might add, that has to be validated by a legal system that really doesn't care about cor…

I wonder if there will be a "Finlandization" of software development (concept courtesy of Chris Crawford's classic "Balance of Power" game) where small devs and dev shops align with larger, protective entities that provide defensive protection in exchange for association with the aura of small, indy developers. Think (evilly): Myrhvold's IV Labs or Apple or Microsoft or IBM offers a "Friends of IV/Apple/MSFT/IBM" pro…

Sorry, firebones, "Balance of Power" Chris Crawford != "Patent 5771354" Chris Crawford. (Fwiw, I made the same assumption while I was listening to "This American Life" too.) I spent far too much time digging to get to the bottom of this identity question....the disambiguation is in the middle name/initial. On the patent filing, the inventor is Christopher M. Crawford. In video-game-Chris-Crawford's preface to his new self-published ebook on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Computer-Game-Design-ebook/dp/B005...

he refers to himself as Christoper Charles Crawford. QED.

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