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How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by tuckfrump666 »

diegoperini wrote: post #124
samatman wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My argument against this is as follows: would you sell your dignity for $10? Now, my dignity doesn't exist in any sense which makes selling it meaningful. So it's kind of like free money. But really it isn't. There's someone out there who can say "I own samatman's dignity, and I got it for cheap". I'm a guy who sold his dignity, and everyone knows it. I feel like people would judge me for that. There are definitely p…

Humans usually put their dignity on rent.

Nobody has come up with a SaaS for renting your dignity

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by samatman »

normac2 wrote: post #104

This seems to be mostly a history of ideas about devils and demons, but it also has things that sound like the oversimplified/mythologized versions of history that neopagans come up with. Mainly this: > The traditional method of summoning demons involves drawing the sigil of your desired demon on the ground. If your summoning ritual is successful the demon will be conjured on the location of the sigil and be unable t…

Actually yes.

There is an historical body of literature on various kinds of summoning magic, starting with the Picatrix.

Those particular sigils are from the Lemegeton, also known as the Lesser Key of Solomon. Which verifiably predates the neopagans. The general idea of constraining the demon by writing its sigil and summoning it has existed for a long time, although in the Lesser Key (and most sources afaik) the demon is summoned into a triangle, with the sigil drawn within, and it is the triangle which constrains it.

I can't recommend doing any of these things, but if someone wants to, I highly suggest not naively following the directions of a satirical blogpost.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by [deleted] »

praptak wrote: post #65
dkersten wrote: post #43

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Surely the modern way to sell your soul online is through NFTs?

Not necessarily. It is speculated that the Devil can solve any mathematical problem and thus human crypto is useless to him, as he can just reverse all hashes, compute the discrete logarithms and factor arbitrarily large numbers. So an NFT (or any other cryptographic artifact) is rather something that Satan can offer you for your soul.

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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by Ensorceled »

briefcomment wrote: post #125
cweill wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as people love Napoleon Hill and his book, he may have been one of the first and biggest fake gurus of the 20th century, having never actually interviewed Carnegie and other rich people for his beloved book: https://youtu.be/iEDzb9ZplX0

What does that have to do with this other book?

The original comment seemed to be recommending this other book based on the quality of this book.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by normac2 »

samatman wrote: post #132
normac2 wrote: post #104

This seems to be mostly a history of ideas about devils and demons, but it also has things that sound like the oversimplified/mythologized versions of history that neopagans come up with. Mainly this: > The traditional method of summoning demons involves drawing the sigil of your desired demon on the ground. If your summoning ritual is successful the demon will be conjured on the location of the sigil and be unable t…

Actually yes. There is an historical body of literature on various kinds of summoning magic, starting with the Picatrix. Those particular sigils are from the Lemegeton, also known as the Lesser Key of Solomon. Which verifiably predates the neopagans. The general idea of constraining the demon by writing its sigil and summoning it has existed for a long time, although in the Lesser Key (and most sources afaik) the dem…

> I can't recommend doing any of these things, but if someone wants to, I highly suggest not naively following the directions of a satirical blogpost.

Very interesting stuff. Regarding this part, are you saying that that the supernatural claims behind these rituals are real in some literal sense, or that they have psychological effects that might not be desirable?

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by mountainriver »

praptak wrote: post #65
dkersten wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely the modern way to sell your soul online is through NFTs?

Not necessarily. It is speculated that the Devil can solve any mathematical problem and thus human crypto is useless to him, as he can just reverse all hashes, compute the discrete logarithms and factor arbitrarily large numbers. So an NFT (or any other cryptographic artifact) is rather something that Satan can offer you for your soul.

Perhaps we should creat soulcoins which are a secure way of trading souls

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by Lammy »

_game_of_life wrote: post #110
rushabh wrote: post #9

Why is this on hackernews again? I thought it was a blog on Kubernetes or React!

Yeah, what the actual fuck. This really makes me question the audience on this site... Does anyone have any alternatives to hacker news? Preferably ones with more skeptics than there are occultist and "demonologist" morons? Fucking bizarre.

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by TeMPOraL »

tuckfrump666 wrote: post #131
diegoperini wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans usually put their dignity on rent.

Nobody has come up with a SaaS for renting your dignity

Instagram and YouTube are two known sites for doing just that. You loan out your dignity when you become an influencer, and have it come back when everyone forgot about that chapter of your life.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by dctoedt »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #130

I read these stories much more literally. One of the things the human brain does is project an honest picture of your self. This is your soul, it's whatever you perceive is your true nature. It's not nice stories you tell about yourself, it's your honest bottom line appraisal. "Selling your soul" is doing something that you know will inflicting trauma on others in return for rewards to you. This is going against "God…

> One of the things the human brain does is project an honest picture of your self. ... It's not nice stories you tell about yourself, it's your honest bottom line appraisal.

That's quite counterintuitive: It seems extremely likely that for most people (including but not limited to your humble servant), their self-image is delusional to a greater or lesser extent.

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