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Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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>It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use voice comms or make their gender known. Gamers talk down to everyone on video games and have since they have been invented. This sounds like a new group of people entering an existing space and not understanding the dynamic (namely incessant shittalking). I can't even count how many strang…

yeah, you're missing the potential on-paper profits to be made from making video games more accessible to a wider audience by sanitizing them and their communities. whether this change is is a good idea in the long run or not can be debated, but that's where the last decade or so of rhetoric against "toxic gamer culture" is coming from, regardless of what is said. could any of the downvoters please tell me how I'm wr…

Having been a gamer for over 30 years now I can assure you that "toxic gamer culture" is very much a thing. You think swatting people is something a healthy culture of good-natured ribbing does?

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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If devs aren’t unionized, there’s no such thing as scabs right? Blizzard can just terminate all the disgruntled employees and hire other devs, perhaps more desperate or entry level or morally ambiguous, whatever. Of course the institutional knowledge lost will be drastic.

What person in their right mind would go work for a company that just fired all it's staff for demanding better conditions?

People in the QA department that are enduring the terrible conditions just for a shot at a game designer/programmer role.

The video game industry has a real problem retaining talent because so many people glorify how "fun" working on video games must be. There are always replacements, but they aren't always good.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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> Why it matters: Walkouts are a drastic measure for developers in a largely non-unionized field, a testament to just how angry employees currently are. It sends a message, but I wouldn't say it's _that_ drastic considering the demand for developers and difficulty hiring in the Orange County area.

Isn’t game dev overflowing with people? I’ve heard salaries for places like EA and people seem to make a lot less there than in comparable non game jobs.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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> considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago What?

Look up what sparked Gamergate. It was largely based in men getting mad about women calling games out for being misogynistic. I am sure some was valid criticism. I am not really a fan of "every game must be progressive", etc. but the fact men got mad that women dared criticize video games should say a lot about the state of the video game industry. Not only that, but also, for a long time, video games just weren't ma…

> "female gamer == Candy Crush"

It is mostly true though. Of course all genres has some women but they skew very heavily in that direction. Strategy games etc barely has any women at all, especially the more complicated ones. Instead they mostly play puzzle games, and more social games like mmorpgs or story based games like rpg's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games#Genre_pr...

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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> is the DFEH out of line, or is the industry just that broken? No chance DEFH is out of line. The tech industry is strongly biased in the favor of white men in my opinion and video games even more so, considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago. It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use vo…

> Think about all those men complaining that a video game _dared_ have a female character or even more so, a non-conventionally attractive one gasp. That was in 2018... That's the _average_ person who is making a video game. Mrs PacMan? Samus? Peach? That was all before 1988

Samus isn't exactly a good example. The reward for winning Metroid is literally seeing her in a 8bit bikini

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

#137

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> is the DFEH out of line, or is the industry just that broken? No chance DEFH is out of line. The tech industry is strongly biased in the favor of white men in my opinion and video games even more so, considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago. It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use vo…

>It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use voice comms or make their gender known. Gamers talk down to everyone on video games and have since they have been invented. This sounds like a new group of people entering an existing space and not understanding the dynamic (namely incessant shittalking). I can't even count how many strang…

This doesn't match tho, atleast in my various experiences in MMOs. The stuff female friends had to deal with for being female is pretty big.

Unwanted dick pics and other unwated advances, stalking, people masturbating in voicechat. Comments like "do you really want to listen to females"/"she's sleeping with xyz to get a raidspot".

I never had to deal with that. I get a generic idiot/retard/kys comment every now and then and that's it. No stalking, no dick pics.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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Interesting. I've been thinking that based on how high up the chain of command the allegations suggest Activision's cultural problems are, it seemed a lot like the only way for Activision to "right the ship" would be to replace senior leadership (including possibly up to the CEO level). I found that outcome unlikely, but if the employees put pressure on ownership in this way, it may perhaps create enough incentive fo…

1 day doesn't seem enough to do anything. At least 3 days if not a week would be much more effective.

They have leverage because activision can't hire scabs, and news employees will have to ramp up for months before they're useful on current projects. They have contractual deadlines to meet, I'm sure.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

#139

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If devs aren’t unionized, there’s no such thing as scabs right? Blizzard can just terminate all the disgruntled employees and hire other devs, perhaps more desperate or entry level or morally ambiguous, whatever. Of course the institutional knowledge lost will be drastic.

> If devs aren’t unionized, there’s no such thing as scabs right? Blizzard can just terminate all the disgruntled employees and hire other devs There is daylight between unions and anarchy. In that daylight are California’s general labor laws and the NLRA.

Putting unions and anarchy as polar opposites...you have no idea how pro-union anarchist are, because they're extremely pro-union.

I gotta give the state props for that trick, made the word dirty with a flawed definition, a bit like how the CIA made the term "conspiracy theory" mean nutjob, and not "criminal conspiracy by those in power"

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

#140

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> is the DFEH out of line, or is the industry just that broken? No chance DEFH is out of line. The tech industry is strongly biased in the favor of white men in my opinion and video games even more so, considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago. It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use vo…

> Think about all those men complaining that a video game _dared_ have a female character or even more so, a non-conventionally attractive one gasp. That was in 2018... That's the _average_ person who is making a video game. Mrs PacMan? Samus? Peach? That was all before 1988

Peach was and still is just a damsel in distress in any non-sports mario game.

Samus is covered up entirely by armor, and when she's not she's in a skin-tight suit that shows off every single curve

Mrs. Pacman... I'll give you that one.

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