I never understood the hype around it.
It's just talk-radio over the internet. With smaller audiences. What am I missing?
Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
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Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#132I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…
>but far fewer people are comfortable talking in a large group of strangers.
Pandemic has played a definitive role in the growth of Clubhouse, it would be interesting to see how it pans out after people get on to regular activities because they are generally shy to speak to their phones in public as compared to speaking on their phones.
But this varies according to the cultures.
Learnt this after launching couple of voice based apps in circa 2016, It saw huge activity from China when their appstores took our app from playstore and published it on them. Rest of the world didn't use the app much. Diging into this phenomenon I found that voice messages were even preferred over text in China at time.
Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#133Not just clubhouse. I get the impression that a few of the major apps are dying. FB - nobody really seems to be posting anymore. Insta - two people actively posting on my feed (I think, hard to tell under all the ads pretending to be posts). Twitter and tiktok appear to be holding their own though. Seen more "delete twitter" sentiment lately though
Exactly. After noticing this, I finally pulled the plug on deleting my FB...but in a creative way... Deleted everything inside the account; posts, pictures, friends.
Kept the account for events, messenger and logins.
Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not a clubhouse expert but it seems clubhouse is better for “spontaneous” conversations/talks, as in I don’t have to upload it as a podcast perhaps do post-processing etc to get my content out. It also allows you to promote your audience to speakers so it’s more of an interactive podcasts, so you can actually ask questions to a panel or the speaker. Again, haven’t used it much but this is what I understand Clubhouse…
> as in I don’t have to upload it as a podcast perhaps do post-processing etc to get my content out That sounds like shirking the responsibility of not wasting the listener's time, i.e. lowering the barrier to production at the cost of raising the friction of consumption. For the app to be popular to use — rather than just popular to publish on — wouldn't you want the opposite? Or, to put that another way: wouldn't "…
> That sounds like shirking the responsibility of not wasting the listener's time
This is why I don't consume podcasts. If it's worth saying, then it's worth making a transcript, which I can skim (or top-and-tail) in a tenth of the time it takes to listen to the whole thing.
Popehat was a blog that I used to visit regularly. Then Ken decided he was too busy to write, and most of his content is now some unscripted podcast - the blog now gets maybe a couple of posts a year, apart from the links to his podcasts.
Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#135They should have remained very small, very exclusive, and you have to pay for access. There's a market for a private social media platform for "elites" with premium features based around privacy and data protection.
Just like A Small World or Decayenne both of which flamed out trying to monetize an "elite" social network ? I still get spam about renting Yachts for the summer.
Lots of social networks failed before FB took off, a similar network failing doesn't mean it would fail. The key is Clubhouse's selling feature and hype came from the fact that was where the cool kids were, and the audio setup made it harder for conversations to leak to the riff raff. Once both those things were untrue, it lost its hype/sheen.
Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#136I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…
> … CH co-founder Paul Davison talking about opening up to all comers, and I heard him make the claim that Clubhouse has bigger potential than text-based social platforms, because talking has less friction than writing, therefore more people will use a talk-based app. I've heard others make this claim before, and it's always struck me as a deeply flawed thesis.
I would have thought, and still do think, similarly about YouTube and video vs. reading:
Who wants to Google the answer to something simple and instead of taking 30 seconds to read it, spend 12 minutes watching a YouTuber to eventually maybe see the answer read to you.
“The answer may surprise you” … everyone, apparently.
I don’t have to understand it or get it, I just have to accept that a huge chunk of today’s audience would rather spend 10x longer to receive information visually through a tiny embedded video postcard than quickly read it for themselves. So I have to design product experiences accordingly, not just for kids, but for adult enterprise employees too.