Regarding lesson 4 (Distribution), the author links to a tweet by Justin Kan saying "First time founders are obsessed with products. Second time founders are obsessed with distribution". Justin Kan posted[0] today a video of himself criticizing that very tweet, saying that it didn't age well and he now believes product is 99% of the work, and the reason that many unicorns are founded by first-time founders is they do…
My app failed: lessons learned
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does this mean?
it means a bad market will make even a good product unsuccesful, and a good market will make even a mediocre product successful. the quality of the market wins out over the quality of the product.
Re: My app failed: lessons learned
#133> The app landed as the #4 product of the day on ProductHunt, had some good initial traction which proceeded to fall off a cliff. This is why you don't post on ProductHunt. Your target market isn't there. Its nothing more than an ego trip for so many founders.
I've posted on ProductHunt as well and so many of the upvotes I get and comments that I get are clearly spambots.
Is there any data on this? I'd be interested to see what % of real users they have.
Many times I've visited ProductHunt there's a top 4 app that doesn't seem useful at all that has tons of generic comments like "Great work!", "Can't wait to see what you do next!", "So useful!" (common on Twitter too).
Guessing you could get bots to vote + comment occasionally to build up their reputation and then use or sell your bot army to manipulate the votes for specific product launches later?
Re: My app failed: lessons learned
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
it means a bad market will make even a good product unsuccesful, and a good market will make even a mediocre product successful. the quality of the market wins out over the quality of the product.
Does this mean the market works by manipulating consumers?
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least for this particular flavor of app, building an Android version is an optimization that should be made once the product has been proven successful. Until that happens, it would be a huge waste of time and money for the developer to build an Android version, since it too would fail as a product, just like the iOS version. Multiplying 0 by 2 is still 0. The situation might be different for an app whose success…
Why not build something like this cross-platform? The functionality sounds simple enough that you don't really need a native app for each platform.
There are of course frameworks out there to help you build one codebase for multiple platforms, but if you go down that route, if you aren't familiar with the framework, you have to learn it. There are going to be quirks in them that you're not aware of. Maybe framework version X only works with iOS version Y and Android version Z. It just goes on and on. Frameworks aren't perfect either, and things don't work exactly the same across platforms even with the framework.
Re: My app failed: lessons learned
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've posted on ProductHunt as well and so many of the upvotes I get and comments that I get are clearly spambots.
> so many of the upvotes I get and comments that I get are clearly spambots. Is there any data on this? I'd be interested to see what % of real users they have. Many times I've visited ProductHunt there's a top 4 app that doesn't seem useful at all that has tons of generic comments like "Great work!", "Can't wait to see what you do next!", "So useful!" (common on Twitter too). Guessing you could get bots to vote + co…
Another thing that's interesting is after you post on Product Hunt, you may get emails from third parties offering services to boost your upvotes.
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#137Good lessons. But so many common mistakes To summarize: 1) Build something people really need, not a nice-to-have 2) Keeping customers is more important than just acquiring them 3) If you're not keeping your customers that means they don't want or need what you have 4) Changing people's behavior is really hard. Unless you have a significant amount of marketing budget, don't try to change people 5) "Distribution" is k…
8.In hindsight, it's easy to give advice to others on their flaws than making it a reality on your own. Making a list really sells it to people. 9.Stop making products, start writing personal development/marketing books that contain things that seem obvious in your head but you've never really tried it yourself. 10. Make your fluff seem as authentic as you can
> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
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#138Re: My app failed: lessons learned
#139Slightly OT: I built myself a journaling app that sends one email every day to remind me to write about that day; I respond to that email and the response gets stored in a db as an entry for that day. The system doesn't try to be clever in any way, it just sends and receives emails; it's proven quite effective. It's been running for about two years now and there are only a couple of days missing, if that. It's very i…
Also OT: I built something very similar, but with text messages and asking for a positive thing that happened during the day rather than a journal entry (forcing myself to look for positive things in a day helped snap me out of a spiral toward depression in the early days of lockdowns). I spent a weekend getting it to the point where it was good enough to share with friends and family, and about a dozen of them signe…
Re: My app failed: lessons learned
#140Slightly OT: I built myself a journaling app that sends one email every day to remind me to write about that day; I respond to that email and the response gets stored in a db as an entry for that day. The system doesn't try to be clever in any way, it just sends and receives emails; it's proven quite effective. It's been running for about two years now and there are only a couple of days missing, if that. It's very i…