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Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Story time! I grew up in eastern Europe in the communist era, in a country where entire factories were run using Commodore 64 computers that were smuggled in, bypassing export controls and sanctions. The programmer at one such factory was a friend of my father, and we'd go over to his place for dinner semi-regularly. He didn't have kids, and I was six, so I was bored to tears. No toys and nobody my age to play with!…

> Statistically, if you know programming, you probably learned it in a tertiary education setting, most likely in your late teens or early twenties. Just like learning a foreign language at that age, you'll never be perfectly fluent. You'll always have an accent, no matter what you do. I appreciate your story, but this comment bothered me, because it's something people repeat a lot and it's actually not true. There's…

> There's no good evidence that adults have more difficulty acquiring language than children.

This kind of rocked me, because in my experience, kids have a clear and obvious advantage compared to adults. They can completely passively acquire a language, phonology and grammar, with no training, in a matter of 5 years or so. And that's completely passively, no education, no effort.

I totally buy that you can turn an adult into a fluent speaker. And I get that it's good for your business to show adults that it's not impossible. But it's like a million times easier for kids, isn't it?

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Story time! I grew up in eastern Europe in the communist era, in a country where entire factories were run using Commodore 64 computers that were smuggled in, bypassing export controls and sanctions. The programmer at one such factory was a friend of my father, and we'd go over to his place for dinner semi-regularly. He didn't have kids, and I was six, so I was bored to tears. No toys and nobody my age to play with!…

Thank you, I will use this post as evidence to show to aspiring engineers, of the kind of overbloated egos that pervade the tech industry.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Taking your comment in the best possible light, I see this as a general indicator that for would-be-developers, things are often so much better than they were, despite the fact that many OSes are locked down. Services like Azure and GitHub make it easy to get started, and combined with great documentation like MDN and Q&A on StackOverflow, so much more information and opportunity is available. I remember struggling t…

As someone who is just learning coding in Python again, the amount of available learning material and projects create the luxury problem of overabundance. It's like drinking from a fire-hose as it's nearly impossible to discern the myriad of low-quality from high-quality content or even what's even relevant in order to get a general programming education. Too many companies trying to lock you into eco-systems, new fr…

This - I never felt the lack of learning materials. I saved my pocket money to buy Turbo C++ and Assembler in my teens. They came with nice fat books that explained standard libraries and instruction sets. My library had more books with references for DOS interrupts/syscalls, memory managers. I got a game programming book that showed me how to push pixels into the framebuffer, and which ports to bang to get a Sound Blaster to sing. I had the Mike Abrash optimization book and spent much of idle school time doodling pipeline simulations on paper.

There was just a handful of integrations like that, and the rest was up to you. The world was less interconnected, there were no REST APIs or gigantic browser/OS API surfaces.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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It must be a horrible work of hackery to turn a smartphone based on iOS or Android into a useful device. Kudos to him. If he was able to do that, then development shouldn't put up much barriers anymore. I would totally buy him a decent PC though.

>iOS Apple doesn't advertise much outside the United States, and given Android is significantly more developer friendly, there isn't a reason for a student to learn on iOS.

I'm in a train station in Berlin right now and every billboard is Apple.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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> they can charge 30-40% of orignal price to receive electronic items Ouch. Hanlon’s razor aside, it’s almost as if the government is intentionally preventing the economy from modernizing. Really sad that some bureaucrats couldn’t see the huge long term gains of a more technology-oriented economy, and instead could only focus on whatever marginal short term revenue these tariffs generated.

This is the problem in many emerging economies in SE Asia. Just because many people are struggling to arrange their daily meals, Governments get into socialist mode and taxes anything which does not classify as bare necessity. Sadly, it is a vicious loop and these economies are not modernizing enough at a rapid pace despite so much talent waiting for an opportunity.

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Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Sadly, this is how things are for many of us students, I currently study bachelors in CS here in Nepal and for me and some of my friends stuck in our villages (lockdown isn't still over here yet), we have been doing C assignments using editors avalialble in the playstore. Seeing these apps have millions of downloads, we're definitely not alone and I have seen many indian and other south asian friends do the same. My…

This is inspirational! Hope to see you move onto great things after your CS degree :)

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

#137

Sadly, this is how things are for many of us students, I currently study bachelors in CS here in Nepal and for me and some of my friends stuck in our villages (lockdown isn't still over here yet), we have been doing C assignments using editors avalialble in the playstore. Seeing these apps have millions of downloads, we're definitely not alone and I have seen many indian and other south asian friends do the same. My…

TBF this is not bad, keep going. Many people in the "west" have brand new macbooks and never installed xcode, python, etc.

The device doesn't matter, the user behavior and education does.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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He probably means programming or debugging while dreaming, which certainly happens when you're up 4am in the morning fixing a stubborn bug or learning something new that captivates your brain.

I meant it literally. I've had dreams where instead of a normal language, I dreamt in C++, as if it was a human language. Instead of spoken words, a header file was changing in my mind, taking shape to match my thoughts. It's the most "alien" experience I've ever had.

Sounds like what an LSD experience must feel like

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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post #131

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> Statistically, if you know programming, you probably learned it in a tertiary education setting, most likely in your late teens or early twenties. Just like learning a foreign language at that age, you'll never be perfectly fluent. You'll always have an accent, no matter what you do. I appreciate your story, but this comment bothered me, because it's something people repeat a lot and it's actually not true. There's…

> There's no good evidence that adults have more difficulty acquiring language than children. This kind of rocked me, because in my experience, kids have a clear and obvious advantage compared to adults. They can completely passively acquire a language, phonology and grammar, with no training, in a matter of 5 years or so. And that's completely passively, no education, no effort. I totally buy that you can turn an ad…

> in a matter of 5 years or so

Wouldn't anybody master a language in 5 years? I'm assuming you're talking about a situation where you are immersed in the language.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Hey, if you are interested you can reply me with your email address here, i can ship you a laptop for free (intel 5th gen i5) that i dont use anymore. it has 4gigs of ram soldered (surface pro 3). and can hopefully be used for some development.

Thank you for such kind and generous gesture. Sadly, with how things are with the courier and customs dep. here they can charge 30-40% of orignal price to receive electronic items Fortunately, I have managed to get few python freelance gigs here and there and in a few months, I may be able to afford one.

I'd like to help more; Could you email me at koepke@gmail.com whenever you have free time and energy?
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