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It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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The reality is that "Outside US support" is usually the lower priority step-two of any project, because it is easier to make more money inside the US, for US companies, for example because of (a lack of) regulations like GDPR. (Source: I am a European working for a US company)

I don't think they entirely don't care, they just care more about (perhaps need to) making money fast than serving a global audience.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Exactly this. Every time I read about GDPR compliance, it feels like a very well-designed set of guidelines that are easy to follow ... IF you aren't stalking users. The complaints about it have the same tone as the Guild of Assassins complaining that laws against murder are really hard to comply with in their industry. Of course they are, and that's the point. -------------- Hypothetical conversation with a Maliciou…

it looks like great tl;dr, but I'm not expert on GDPR nice

It's a nice summary of the GDPR, and following this TLDR in good faith will get you in compliance (at least enough to avoid scrutiny from the regulator).

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Why do companies even bother writing that? They clearly don't care, if they did that box wouldn't even be there. Sites like Imgur are the absolute worst. "We care about your privacy" and presents you with a list of 1200 companies they share information with.

Is there any way to auto opt-out of these sites? Like an adblocker, but for these privacy pops?

There's an extension for Firefox called: "Never-Consent". It only works for some site and completely breaks other.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Words are free. Stop saying banned customers are great. This is my argument.

Writing words takes time and effort. Time and effort cost money.

  %s/are important to us/cannot view this content/g

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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> No idea how to get links to display properly even following "Formatting Options" instructions. You can't have links in text posts like this. HN stories are a link or text. From https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc : "Urls become links, except in the text field of a submission." To make proper links in comments , just put " https:// " in front of them so they're URLs. " " are for unusual URLs that get mis-detected…

Oops. Even in seven sentences, I missed a detail. :(

Thanks; noted for the future.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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IANAL, but can't they just word a disclaimer and checkbox? Something like: "Our European visitors are important to us... but the cost of GDPR-compliance for a US-focused site is high. For your own GDPR protection, we advise you not to access our site. However, if you choose to do so, you agree to waive any and all rights granted to you under the GDPR. [ ] Agree"

Correct, you're not a lawyer. IANAL either but I know enough to know people can't generally waive their rights. If they could then every website would just say "you are waiving your GDPR rights if you continue using this site" and be done with it.

I simply thought jurisdiction would be relevant here. The EU can make whatever rules it wants to cover its own citizens, and beyond that - they can't enforce them.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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How GDPR is implemented is a total shitshow. It clearly says that it's an OPT-IN, not opt-out and one has to uncheck everything one by one. We're creating a fucking dystopia just to click on more ads.

I used to see only that, but lately I've been seeing cases where once you choose the "manage cookies" option, all the nonessential cookies are opted out by default.

I can't trust that, a lot of websites do that but also keep all of the "Legitimate Interest" boxes ticked by default, I need to check every single pop-up to see if that's the case or not.

I hate these dark patterns and in spite I do lose my time to uncheck everything I can, if I can't untick everything in less than 20 seconds I simply close the website, no matter what.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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post #117

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IANAL, but can't they just word a disclaimer and checkbox? Something like: "Our European visitors are important to us... but the cost of GDPR-compliance for a US-focused site is high. For your own GDPR protection, we advise you not to access our site. However, if you choose to do so, you agree to waive any and all rights granted to you under the GDPR. [ ] Agree"

Which is like saying “this building doesn’t follow engineering best practices, it may fall on your head at any moment” and expect to get away with that.

Isn't it more like a website in one country rightly stating it's not bound by the laws in another country?

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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The user here just wants honesty - a "As a local American* media, we cannot afford the additional costs of GDPR compliance. As such, this content is not available to EU/EEA." That's it. Not "We are evaluating options to deliver your favorite [sic] content to EEA." when they already decided to no longer server Europeans. * "local American media" WTF. Almost all of you are large corporates.

Or maybe they are planning to give you localised [sic] content at some point and just haven't prioritised [sic] it yet?

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