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#131
I will not comment on the business, just the website. It is bad (not quite terrible). It is actually responsive, but it came from some cheap template.

I am not sure why is that. Does agencies charge way too much for their work, so they didn't want to pay 150K for website, but spent 150 instead. There should be a room in-between for this.

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#132

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> Who's the target customer for this? People who fall for stuff like Hyperloop. The biggest problem with housing is not the building itself, its the land and the scarcity of it. This is yet another tech 'solution' in search of a problem. And that problem is political, not technical. INB4: but we're gonna deploy these on Mars!!

Land is not scarce. We literally make as much of it as we want. What makes it scarce is legislation and zoning. Look at Manhattan or Hong Kong. You just stack the homes and offices and stores on top of each other.

Utilities?

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#133

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This comment deserves to be higher. People just think you can put these anywhere but you need water connection, sewer connection, electrical, telephone line/cable, permits and red tape, by the time you're done it'll be double. And I don't think these solve any of our housing affordability problems, the land in a desirable area will be far more expensive than what's on top.

We need a better way to distribute land than the one we use now (=based on money and inheritance). This is the problem which smart people should be working on, not some prefab home.

People should be free to buy the land they want with the money that they've earned or otherwise legally acquired. It's just a basic principle. The principal below that principle, is that you have autonomy over your own body, and your own labor, and you have a choice as to how you apply. And you have a right to the fruits of your labor and creativity and entrepreneurship. And you can spend those fruits, and all the ways that are legal, including buying land, including buying expensive land in desirable places. And that kind of land is expensive. Not everybody can buy it.

Re: Modular Homes for Under $50k

#134

This house is 375 sq ft and uses low end materials, and it doesn't include setup, so it's going to cost ~$100k, or $266 / sq ft. Most new home construction is more like $150 / sq ft. And with this system, you're very limited in what you can build. Who's the target customer for this?

If you think new home construction is $150 / sq ft. (in the US), you haven't been keeping up with the times. It was $220 / sq ft. before COVID, now its $300+ for stick built. Modulars are $200-$250. When material prices tripled, the cost got offloaded to the customer, and given the demand hasn't changed.. it probably isn't going to regress to the mean anytime soon.

Re: Modular Homes for Under $50k

#135

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I admire your admiration of him, it's a sign you haven't reached the level of cynicism required to classify him in the 'snake oil salesman' category yet.

Snake oil salesmen do not send self landing rockets to the ISS. He may have a bit more hype and may be manipulative in some ways, but you have to admit that he has given a good amount of technological progress to the world. Would you think the big car companies would scramble for electric cars if not for Tesla?

Would you think the big car companies would scramble for electric cars if not for Tesla?

I feel some people give Tesla too much credit on this one. When I arrived in the UK (3 years ago), there were Nissan Leafs and Renault Zoes everywhere. It was rare that I saw a Tesla. Tesla's are much more common, now, but so are many other models. I would not say that Tesla has driven the market at all, here.

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#136

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This comment deserves to be higher. People just think you can put these anywhere but you need water connection, sewer connection, electrical, telephone line/cable, permits and red tape, by the time you're done it'll be double. And I don't think these solve any of our housing affordability problems, the land in a desirable area will be far more expensive than what's on top.

We need a better way to distribute land than the one we use now (=based on money and inheritance). This is the problem which smart people should be working on, not some prefab home.

Better then the market?

Re: Modular Homes for Under $50k

#137

I will not comment on the business, just the website. It is bad (not quite terrible). It is actually responsive, but it came from some cheap template. I am not sure why is that. Does agencies charge way too much for their work, so they didn't want to pay 150K for website, but spent 150 instead. There should be a room in-between for this.

You judge websites based on how expensive they are?

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#138
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I really want one of these and I don't know why. I'm struggling to come up with uses for this other than for AirBNB style short term rental places or pre-planned communities for helping homeless people get back on their feet or something. Doesn't seem as portable as a mobile home, and doesn't really have enough of a rustic look for me to want to consider this as a cabin. I feel like I'm missing a big use case here, b…

The UK is full of these in holiday parks, either as homes for middle class retirees downsizing to a nice little community in the country (the economics aren't quite as impressive when you consider the annual charge for the park land and facilities...) or as holiday lodges, including holiday lodges exclusively used as summer/weekend retreats Technically these are all "mobile" but they won't move after delivery.

examples: https://www.tingdene.co.uk/residential-park-homes/our-homes

Re: Modular Homes for Under $50k

#139

I imagine the margin isn't there for it, but I wish someone would target the I'd have to guess the market just isn't there for it, maybe everyone else just doesn't mind dealing with the building codes and permit requirements for larger units?

Don't know why you're down voted. I've looked into my fair share of tiny houses and vanlife builds, and they all have one thing in common: it's either amateuristic (don't get me wrong, I love it, but the quality and looks ain't there), or it's superdeluxe comfy/beautiful and completely forgetting about all the hassle around it. I mean, one needs land and permission to put a 'house' somewhere.

There seems nothing in between. So now I'm looking into bicycle caravans. One can just put 'm in the woods, nobody finds out (and if they do, so what), it costs basically nothing, you can fix it yourself, etc. I might post my current bicycle caravan project to HN soon.

Re: Modular Homes for Under $50k

#140

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This comment deserves to be higher. People just think you can put these anywhere but you need water connection, sewer connection, electrical, telephone line/cable, permits and red tape, by the time you're done it'll be double. And I don't think these solve any of our housing affordability problems, the land in a desirable area will be far more expensive than what's on top.

We need a better way to distribute land than the one we use now (=based on money and inheritance). This is the problem which smart people should be working on, not some prefab home.

When people say “we” must “distribute”, it usually rather means that the state should take with force from owners - where oneself is often excluded.

The most well known example of implanting land redistribution on a large scale is known as Holodomor.

“Man plans, God laughs”. It is prideful vanity to think one can plan the economy better than free people who care for their own.

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