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Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#131
I have a dark joke based on wearing white shoes after labor day. You can't kill yourself if you're under 30 and your mother is still alive.

That said, your 23, which means you have an absolute shit load of time play with. If you have the beginnings of a stable career, even the better.

About romantic relationships. Chasing after it directly generally just leads nowhere. I found it always worked a lot better to just get out, find things to do that you enjoy where there are women around. Learn to talk to women without any agenda. Don't be picky about who either. With every group of women there is a back channel, be nice and respectful and get on the right side of it.

Also helps to also have girl sized room in how your life works.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#132

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This is extremely relatable and true. Thank you. The Tinder game is so horrible, 5% of the women get the attention of 80% of the men or more, leaving both the men and women in the other group feeling like there is something wrong with them. People feel the need to edit themselves in order to fit the false narrative created by these gamified dating scenarios, or else experience the fear of dying alone . There is nothi…

> [0] - https://youtu.be/oYp5XuGYqqY?t=349 While most of the talk is great, he just handwaves the idea that reality is not "brains and neurons," nor what physicists try to model, but he makes no effort in explaining what's the difference between "reality" and "physics." It would be great if someone who understood that last part could explain it.

Yes, that is true, he acknowledges that he doesn't know what reality "really is" otherwise.

Consider Emmanuel Kant's Rose Colored glasses for a moment before dismissing Hoffman's ideas outright. This idea has been brushed against before, I find it very interesting and supplies a lot of fertile earth to till.

If you would like to engage further, I recommend Curt Jaimungal's multi-hour conversation with Dr. Hoffman on his podcast "Theories of Everything".

The link to his youtube video of the discussion is here, it's available on the podcast RSS feeds too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmieNQH7Q4w

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

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post #102

23 is much too early to declare yourself a failure in life. That's the depression talking. "That shit ain't the truth." Just because you're not having the outcomes that you want does not mean you're a failure. Depression and feelings of inadequacy and failure are a vicious circle, because ... depression makes it hard to succeed. Depression also makes it hard to connect with people, and hard to stay connected. Depress…

> 23 is much too early to declare yourself a failure in life.

How about 39? Asking for a friend.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#134
I was in a similar state at times in my early 20s. My advice is...

#1 Don't harm yourself. You are in a rough patch. It will be over at some point. Life is really very hard some times, but not all the time. Some times it is really fun and lovely. Those times will come again.

#2 Whenever you do something (work on a project/spend time with people/walk in nature/check in with social media) ask yourself do you feel better, healthier, happier, stronger after this activity or do you feel worse. Focus on those people and activities that "fill your bucket". To the greatest degree possible avoid people and actives that empty your bucket.

#3 Don't worry about it too much. Take it easy on yourself and be patient with yourself. Do worry too much about social media profiles. They aren't real. To the degree they are real, they are not the full story. Just try to have a good time where ever you can. Be nice to yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#135
First, I do think that a therapist is the right way to start to change what you want to change.

That said, I will give my unprofessional opinion on the chance is the insight you need.

I think human connection through a community will help you more than through dating. Go on a quest on the internet to find those people that you enjoy hanging around and, with time, you would feel comfortable sharing these feelings without a throwaway account, even if you never do actually share. Just try to find people that makes you feel better, not worse, when you are with them.

Could work colleagues, board game enthusiasts, fellow students in a creative writing class, some online game, book club, running club, anything. Go explore and keep trying until you find your tribe.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#136
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I’d like to slightly counter the enthusiastic responses to this comment. First, I do think there’s value to much of what you’re saying. With that said, if time spent writing code is becoming an escapist activity, and if one is escaping from sufficiently dark demons, consider speaking with a therapist as well. I realize this will not apply to all readers, but the trouble with this advice starts if there is depression…

Sedetary lifestyle might be the root cause, so the advice is probably spot on.

I agree, and I allow for that possibility in my comment.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#137

It's literally a therapist's job to help you figure this out, I don't want to undermine this. Please speak to a professional, you are not alone. In the meantime, here are some of my own "no bullshit mantras" I found comforting in similar times, mostly from Zen Bhuddism : * You are not supposed to be anywhere. Your only real obligation is to be you, now. * There is no "better" version of you now. There is no other way…

34 & living at home = not d best :P but I liked this comment a lot & really like Zen Buddhism (& mediration, for me, a must.)

https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Zen-Mind.pdf

You’re still suuper young & have much life yet to enjoy. Get through this funk / these strange times & do what you can to keep your head up :)

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#138

I'm in your age range and sadly I'm hearing from A LOT of young men that Tinder is really damaging their self esteem (specifically the lack of matches most men get which can feel as bad as getting rejected face to face a thousand times to some men). It's also disgusting that these apps take advantage of vulnerable young men desperate for connection by up-selling them on an endlessly growing list of paid add-ons that…

Tinder has completely messed up dating in terms of spontaneously meeting people. The only chance normal guys have for dating now is via their friend groups and with girls who don't use Tinder (which is still a surprising percentage in certain circles of 'nerdier' girls)

In my opinion the best bet is to choose an activity and do it. You will naturally socialize with other like minded individuals, have some fun, maybe even learn a useful skill, and you will for certain feel good doing it :)

People (generalizing here) are attracted to happy, engaged, healthy people. Attractiveness markers are health markers. If you find yourself with an internal voice telling you you are bad or wrong or not good enough, may I humbly suggest adopting this mantra in their place: "I can become good at anything."

because you can.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#139

"I know that I'm a complete failure in life." Why do you say this? Because you aren't living the life of others? Because for whatever reasons you chose to program and do math instead of socialising and building social skills and friendship/relationships? Maybe you are being too hard on yourself? After all you don't know what you don't know and even if you knew the decisions you made were going to result in this much…

Here's my problem - I know there are lots of people having the time of their lives like the people OP is seeing on Tinder, except they also better at programming and doing math than me because they just seem inherently better . Basically everyone at Stanford and MIT is having fun and still making more than me - it feels like all of my hard work has been for nothing, and that at 25 I'll never even have a fraction of t…

I went to Stanford, did not have the time of my life, and spent much of my 20s feeling adrift and envious of my (seemingly) more professionally and socially successful peers.

Now that I’m in my 30s one of my main regrets is that I wasted so much time feeing sorry for myself and comparing myself to other people instead of just, like, _doing stuff_. You can start experiencing life right now. Go to some new places (even just in your local area), try out some random hobbies, read a book on a random subject you’ve assumed you have no interest in. Try to meet some people who don’t work in the tech industry. Have some compassion for yourself and recognize that almost everyone is struggling with something, and that it takes time to figure out what you value and enjoy and derive meaning from in life.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#140
My only advise is to stay the hell away from social media and dating apps. This is by far the most counterproductive measure you could take. While I'm not entirely sure what were the creators' goals for each one, the end result is that they are means for people to fuel their ego and all the post, pictures, videos, likes and comments are just a scaled down version of Dan Bilzerian's social media accounts: it's all a play and the reality has nothing to do with what is being shown. Let's dial the clock back around 20 years when I was in school - I had a good amount of classmates who had rich parents - getting driven to school in brand new G-wagons with personal drivers, 1000+ euro phones while the average monthly salary was around 400 and all that. I aknowledged that we had different social status but that wasn't the reason why I kept a distance from all of them. The truth is there was not a single topic that you could discuss with them. And 20 years later one of two things have happened: they have inherited the leftover from their parents' businesses or their parents can no longer support their lifestyle(kind of a lot to expect from your parents when they are retired). As far as they go however, there is still absolutely nothing to talk to them about.

I'm not going to lie, my life for the past 4 years hasn't been particularly easy, largely due to family issues, but generally it turned out alright, Certainly exceeded my expectations from when I was your age.

I suppose I was always a bit antisocial - never really enjoyed interacting with others, I preferred reading/listening as opposed to writing/talking. That said, the pandemic did cut off pretty much all interactions I had with others and that started getting to me a bit. And I guess it was luck but around july last year I was presented with an opportunity to get a dog. And after meeting the puppy it was settled and it's been one of the best descisions I've ever made and I suggest you give that a thought as well and consider a breed that is known for their intelligence. It's a double edged blade, since clever dogs tend to be a lot more hyperactive and require more attention, it's absolutely astonishing to watch them evaluate and adapt to complex situations. "How the hell did you figure that one out" becomes the norm. At this point I have absolutely no desire to interact with people.

Also as others pointed out - gym.

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