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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#131
If I use mouse to navigate webapges, the most used actions would be back/foward stop/reload (it took them maybe a decade to combine this into one action) and the address bar.

Makes sense these actions would be close together, right? So what's the motivation for moving one (address bar) away from the rest?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#133
I'm using developers edition so not sure how the final release turned out - did they revert their compact mode decision, or do you still need to re-enable in about:config?

Ugh, I love FF, but I hate that decision, and the apparent bone-headed decision making process. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1693028 if you want to feel sad about your favorite browser =(

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#134
post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

Sadly, I think there is some truth to the adage that departments ensure their continued existence.

I worry about that

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#136
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do I get the old style of tabs back? Don't know but: > I need every vertical pixel I can get. If this is really important to you (as it is for me), try Tree Style Tab ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... ). First just installed it to move the tabs to the side, but now I gotten so used to tabs in a logical tree that anything else is a big hassle to use.

Or https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/ as an alternative.

Tree style tabs used to get very laggy when you have lots of tabs open. Sideberry performed much faster. So I switched to it.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#137

I bounce between qutebrowser, brave, and firefox - could anyone who exclusively uses ff convince me to switch? I've always viewed ff as a solid fine out of ten, and would be interested in hearing more about any unique and cool features.

* Not Google * Multi-Account Containers (a bit of a power-user tool, but great for isolation) Frankly, that's all I have now. You can't customize the UI like you used to, the extension marketplace for FF and Chrome are pretty much parity, and the speed of FF (and Chrome) is great. I think they're both power hungry, though.

A lack of tab groups and PWA are pretty big strikes against Firefox.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#138

How much research was done on the UI changes improving useability? I can't determine this...

You may want to check out these tickets [1][2]. The latest comment in the second link nails it for me. > I don't understand this decision. First the removal of compact mode was motivated because is has bad discoverability. Then community raise its voice to say that not what it wants. And the answer is to make the setting even less discoverable… > Of course is won't be used if it is less and less discoverable. And thi…

I see these kinds of changes as "smiling product manager" changes. They have chosen an answer to a question and the data _will_ be made to justify the decision. That path is inevitably paved with catch-22s.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#139

How do I get the old style of tabs back? I need every vertical pixel I can get.

There is also browser.compactmode.show set to true that will allow compact density. Unfortunately that won't reduce the padding around bookmark entries. For that can go to https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#140
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do I get the old style of tabs back? Don't know but: > I need every vertical pixel I can get. If this is really important to you (as it is for me), try Tree Style Tab ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... ). First just installed it to move the tabs to the side, but now I gotten so used to tabs in a logical tree that anything else is a big hassle to use.

This is the same order of improvement over plain tabs, that tabs were over 1-page-per-window. All browsers should come with this by default, and the fact that they don't is proof to me that UI innovation is stagnating.

Edge and Vivaldi are the two that I know of that have it as an option built in. Opera has a sidebar and uses workspaces to organize tabs now, but they used to have vertical tabs in the past.
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