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The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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You don’t even need that second roll. If, in that auction, a player bids more than the cash they have, they go bankrupt immediately ( https://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/monins.pdf doesn’t say such bids are disallowed, and does say “The buyer pays the Bank the amount of the bid in cash” and “You are declared bankrupt if you owe more than you can pay either to another player or to the Bank.”) This can happen after…

You don't need the first roll either. At the very beginning of the game, offer your opponent $1,600 in return for a 50% stake in all the rents they collect for the rest of the game. Your opponent accepts, and you can't pay. Game over.

I thought I was the only psycho that played Monopoly with ad-hoc negotiations (literally, everything is a negotiation).

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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As someone's thats read the many country's and state's constitutions, all major holy books and heavily weighted side-books for different sects Its surprising I haven't thought to read the rules for Monopoly yet Could be an onion headline. Constitutional lawyer has never read the Monopoly(R) official rules.

I bet you haven't read the UK constitution.

Because it isnt a single document

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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You’d be surprised how few people know about the rule for auctioning property that is not purchased. I’m guessing most people learned to play without reading the actual rules. It’s just passed down by copying the actions of your older siblings.

Or, due to how tedious the game can sometimes be people ignore it because it’s too mouth work.

I think the typical house rules (no auctions, cash on free parking) are to make the game more tolerable for younger children.

Auctions are complicated, and a child with little money is angered when their sibling gets the property they landed on for a discount.

Income tax is tough, but there's a chance of getting it back, so please pay Billy.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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A very useful thing if you know everyone else is low on cash. More than once I've landed on an expensive property I wanted, but sent it up for auction knowing that nobody else could afford to bid up to face value.

Wait the person that landed on it can also participate in the auction!? Wwwhat I need to see experienced people playing this game by the official rules or whatever the consensus is, since official seems to change over time too

That's been the rules for decades in the British edition (my family's older copy is from the 1950s).

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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You don't even have to play. Just declare you win and if the other person agrees it's game over.

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

This might have been the lesson the original creator had in mind, that capitalism is somehow a fool's game.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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You most likely weren't following all the rules. Monopoly shouldn't take more than about 45 minutes of game play if you follow all the rules.

Cool. I'll let my 7 year old and 5 year old know.

You could look for a different game, which would probably be shorter, and hopefully also less frustrating.

There are plenty of lists of "board games for children" etc, but I recommend ignoring any list that promotes games with dated mechanics, like Monopoly, Battleship, Ludo. (Monopoly has a very long losing phase, when it's clear who will win but the other players must wait to be made bankrupt. Battleship is almost entirely luck-based, Ludo even more so.)

I won't assume I can give a recommendation myself, as I don't have children.

(Except I see original Azul recommended, and I like that myself. And Indian Summer. And Copenhagen. And Kingdomino. And Santorini. I'm not sure about a 5 year old playing these though.)

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/childrens-products/board-ga... maybe, though I haven't heard of any of them (and they stick in Monopoly at the very end).

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2337832/game-where-5-year-o... / https://boardgamegeek.com/forum/34/bgg/gaming-kids

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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> due to how tedious the game can sometimes be people ignore it because it’s too [much] work. The view that the game is tedious is directly caused by not reading the rules. Monopoly is in an odd position where everyone is convinced they know what it's like, and yet nobody knows how to play it. Turns out, if you play it according to the rules, it is not at all similar to the version with rules you made up.

It still is not fun as a game though. - For people uncomfortable with cut throat competition, this game is winner take all. - For competitive people, victory is 90% luck and therefore unsatisfying. - The game is decided halfway through the game time, the rest is the inevitable victory of the leading player.

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Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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My sister often buys nothing. She has this weird idea that certain colors and utilities aren't worth buying. I beat her every time with my "buy literally everything" strategy.

Maybe your sister doesn't like playing and/or wants the game to end quickly.

It's the other way around. I think it's the worst game in the world.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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No one is required to purchase during an auction, everyone could pass. Simply insert in the directions in the appropriate places "...put the property up for auction and everyone passes immediately."

Well, OK, here we run into a bit of a problem, in that the rules don't actually specify how the auction is conducted, so what happens if everybody passes is kind of just undefined. What you say is one reasonable interpretation. However, there is no interpretation that leaves these games as the shortest.

https://www.officialgamerules.org/monopoly

If you do not wish to buy the property, the Bank sells it at through an auction to the highest bidder. The high bidder pays the Bank the amount of the bid in cash and receives the Title Deed card for that property. Any player, including the one who declined the option to buy it at the printed price, may bid. Bidding may start at any price

So in this case the highest bidder is no one. As a result, no one will get the property.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

This might have been the lesson the original creator had in mind, that capitalism is somehow a fool's game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Landlord%27s_Game
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