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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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That should not be necessary. Bicycles don't need it, do they? Moreover, with modern blind spot cameras, automatic collision avoidance systems (which will probably, cheaply, equip every electric car), I hope these concerns will completely fade away.

> Bicycles don't need it, do they? The traffic fatalities of bicyclists in cities would like a word with you...

And yet if I permanently had a siren on my bicycle you’d think I’d be an asshole.

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#132

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

Bikes with loud exhaust all have the exhaust pointing out the back. If you want to be heard coming instead of going, you should add a U-bend just behind the muffler so the exhaust sound is projected forward.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Hi-viz doesn't work though. I use to look like a walking highlighter, I might as well have been invisible. Put on aftermarket exhaust and people know I'm there. The difference in behaviour was crazy.

Sorry, I don’t understand why you’re downvoted, because that’s kinda interesting. Has someone wrote the sound also don’t help in many cases so that could indicate that many aren’t paying enough attention while driving or we’re lacking some way to make bikers visible (both motorcycles and bicycles).

The downvotes are because the loud pipes thing is a myth, especially on the highway. MSF classes actually cover this.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

I noticed that people on more powerful bikes crash way more often for their own lack of driving skill, than the other way around. Lost count to seeing scenes like kids on H2Rs "crashing" into something at like just above pedestrian speeds. It takes a lot of skill to drive a powerful, and heavy motorcycle. It's definitely should not be your first, or even second machine. I'm myself on two-wheelers for 15 years still f…

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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#135
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I noticed that people on more powerful bikes crash way more often for their own lack of driving skill, than the other way around. Lost count to seeing scenes like kids on H2Rs "crashing" into something at like just above pedestrian speeds. It takes a lot of skill to drive a powerful, and heavy motorcycle. It's definitely should not be your first, or even second machine. I'm myself on two-wheelers for 15 years still f…

I would support all that. When starting out, take that weekend course your local college offers - and try all the bikes in a controlled safe environment. I was shocked how much I didn't want a sports bike - the posture and low speed maneuverability were horrid. I also didn't like cruisers personally, didn't feel in control leaning back. I turned into a lifelong standard posture guy - whether city bike or adventure or…

Fwiw, in California it’s customary to do a day long motorcycle safety course in lieu of taking an on road test with the DMV, which is noted as having some aspects that are unusually difficult.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#136
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I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

Yeah, your loud pipes don't help the fact that most people can't handle driving without intentionally distracting themselves with music, apps, or phone calls. Driving a car is too easy a task and requires just enough focus that people go on mental autopilot and ignore outliers like motorcycles and bicycles.

Unless one trains oneself to notice them (or if one has an affinity to them due to being an enthusiast), two wheeled vehicles are a lot harder to notice while driving in a car.

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#137

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Worst thing is that they are ruining it for everyone. Loud pipes, racing on the streets - causes more and more noise laws and motorcycle bans, making it harder for everyone. Also looking forward to ride electric. Currently, the range sadly doesn't enable what I want to do with my bike - ride it out of town, to the mountains, where there is no infrastructure. But hopefully soon. For inner city commuting, electric bike…

They've taken the significantly-emptier streets of midtown-Manhattan and decided it's their playground evenings and late nights. Most of them are coming in from New Jersey. Usually it's 30 or 40 of them at a time and they ride extremely dangerously in addition to being loud.

It wouldn't be an issue if the NYPD were interested in enforcing the law.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#138

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

Thank Goodness for your change of heart.

Personally I am in favour of the judicious and summary execution of the death penalty for people who ride incredibly loud motorbikes in built up and residential environments... .

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#139

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#140

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I've never been a fan of 'loud pipes save lives'. Its your riding skill that is going to save your life, your ability to anticipate the actions of others.
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