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Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by aidenn0 »

richardhod wrote: post #129
aidenn0 wrote: post #128

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It's even worse than that. They get other countries to make harsher laws than the US has, then when they try to pass similar laws in the US, they argue that it's just normalizing our laws with what other countries are doing...

I'm interested in links to any examples if you have some because this is a development I haven't heard of, and I am dartley curious

The Sonny Bono CTEA was passed under the reasoning of harmonizing US copyright terms with the EU after the EU's Copyright Duration Directive.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by bsd44 »

durnygbur wrote: post #9

One doesn't know how stressful and infuriating these copyright notices are until one lived in a country with internet hijacked by copyright predators. From the moment of receiving such notice there is only stress, misinformation, and verbal abuse. Thanks Americans. PS. It doesn't matter you downloaded free software, every person you'll contact in the process of straightening this out will be equally clueless and abus…

I used to work for an ISP and had to deal with copyright notices (99% DMCA) a lot. This caused me so much anxiety and rage because DMCA is an American law not British, but the management decided to "just take the website down, it's easier than having to go back and forth arguing with the copyright trolls". The amount of legitimate websites we had to take offline was incredibly huge, because the decision was to never question a copyright notice - just do it. So if someone wanted to take someone out they would just send us a DMCA notice and we would do it no questions asked. From all those years and hundreds of cases I would say maybe one or two website owners had the means to fight back.

If this is indeed a case of someone trolling the copyright trolls and not a mistake then good for them, I hope they win!

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by b0tzzzzzzman »

durnygbur wrote: post #9

One doesn't know how stressful and infuriating these copyright notices are until one lived in a country with internet hijacked by copyright predators. From the moment of receiving such notice there is only stress, misinformation, and verbal abuse. Thanks Americans. PS. It doesn't matter you downloaded free software, every person you'll contact in the process of straightening this out will be equally clueless and abus…

You can thank America once they finally manage to push changes to section 230.. It will be so much better then.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by croutonwagon »

finalis wrote: post #70
Mindwipe wrote: post #45

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No, you have to demonstrate that it is actually in bad faith rather than just a cock up, and that's not going to happen (especially given it very likely is just a cock up).

https://www.opsecsecurity.com/opsec-online/antipiracy-digita... From their own website: "Accurate Multi-Level Verification Use swift and accurate multi-level cyber verification techniques to confirm copyright infringement" It sure doesn't sound to me like a company that would like it on record that they aren't as good as they think they are. Have them publicly admit the cock up.

And yet....they arent even in DMARC reject mode..

https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=dmarc%3aopsecsec...

But they are getting their own forensics feeds.

This seems to me that they are willifully staying in p=none so they can try and have plausible deniability should these things get public.

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by aurizon »

gabereiser wrote: post #116
aurizon wrote: post #63

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Yes, it would be interesting. This copyright trolling based on false rights has become a growth industry. Almost all you tube creators have stories to tell about fake trolling DMCA demands. Every new you tube creator is assured of being trolled and unless they are able to get them to back down, the trolls grab the monetization revenue portion youtube grants. I had this happen to me. I made an original cat video and p…

>This copyright trolling based on false rights has become a growth industry Truer words have never been spoken right there. I feel like there’s an industry of folks that will perform DMCA takedowns on anyone’s behalf and they don’t care if they are correct or not. The onus is on the defendant. It’s sick.

Sad indeed, there is a huge problem lurking for youtube as this industry spreads and too many creators will get pissed off and move on they will have to find a way to factually deal with it or die a lingering death. The Chinese way has some merit. True verified name only and one account will cut out a lof of the anonymous arracks. Look at how many people get throwaway HN accounts...

Re: Online Antipiracy firm sending copyright notices for downloading Ubuntu ISO

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Post by [deleted] »

buran77 wrote: post #58
ComodoHacker wrote: post #46

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How is it legal? Do they get permissions from copyright owners?

Yes, they represent large content owner conglomerates and have the permission to go after pirates. The shady part is where they can just go to the ISP and request the personal customer information associated to an IP they believe is transferring the infringing content. In Germany the law allows lawyers to ask and get this info from the ISP purely based on suspicion. This is the dirty secret related to how Germany enf…

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