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When I was working in France you legally had to give 3 months notice to quit. I think there are ways around this notice period in certain situations.
What happens if you just walk out? Any kind of penalty?
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The middle ground here, and what most people do, is giving notice when you have one (1) offer in hand. You shouldn't need multiple
Do you not negotiate between companies who've given you offers? That's standard advice for tech workers that I've heard and used.
Had a similar experience with Google a few months back - very disappointing how some companies play with people's future.
Had a similar experience with Google a few months back - very disappointing how some companies play with people's future.
My experience interviewing there sucked. I found their whole process to be rushed and invasive. At the end of the whole thing I was told by the recruiter that the team and manager loved me and I'd have a written offer the following week. I was then invited to come have lunch with a member of the team (it was pretty casual). A couple or so days later I got a call from the recruiter saying that hiring committee rejecte…
To be fair this is a good way to mitigate bias in hiring.
In any case, I haven't heard of people getting a signed job offer retracted due to a reorg.. there are lots of stories of great candidates not getting hired.
This is sadly a lot more common than people realize. It's drilled in your head that as an employee you should never ever renege on a job offer or accept a better one too soon because you are "burning bridges" and that is very bad, but it never works the same the other way around. Budgets change all the time. Departments go through reorgs. Projects get cancelled. "Hey but we have an open job offer" is never going to b…
Yeah, been there, done that. I turned down my other offers and then the one I accepted cancelled on me the night before my first day of work. I ran out of money and had to take a loan from a friend. I ended up working for them later anyway. No point holding a grudge.
Sending a signal, even a weak one, that certain behavior is not acceptable is a perfectly valid reason.
If he wanted to, he could probably sue Tesla for tortious interference of his previous job, since he gave notice at the previous job because of them. Also, it really sucks that Tesla didn't offer him severance given that he was effectively laid off. Hopefully he can at least get unemployment.
Another possibility is that he regains his old job. I've seen that happen recently - guy left our org for a hotshot startup in a different domain, politics happened and his position was essentially rendered unviable. He rejoined our group and didn't lose status or reputation for his 1 month stint. At least this guy didn't get hired before that happened. IMHO he's dodged a bullet. If he was good with his old place the…
This is sadly a lot more common than people realize. It's drilled in your head that as an employee you should never ever renege on a job offer or accept a better one too soon because you are "burning bridges" and that is very bad, but it never works the same the other way around. Budgets change all the time. Departments go through reorgs. Projects get cancelled. "Hey but we have an open job offer" is never going to b…
Instead, employees will accept their new job offer and then simply quit their old job on the same day they start their new job.
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Yeah, been there, done that. I turned down my other offers and then the one I accepted cancelled on me the night before my first day of work. I ran out of money and had to take a loan from a friend. I ended up working for them later anyway. No point holding a grudge.
> I ended up working for them later anyway. No point holding a grudge. Sending a signal, even a weak one, that certain behavior is not acceptable is a perfectly valid reason.
The two times I started a new job it seems the position I was interviewed for, and the team I ended up joining was somewhat different... Because of shifting priorities, etc. such is life in a living organization. But neither employer rescinded their offer. Retracting a job offer is not normal. Stories like this will discourage people from joining Tesla. And in reality Tesla could easily find a position for an extra e…