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Signal is an open protocol and supports E2E encrypted text, voice and video.
wasn't signal shutting down alternative clients or something?
Just the ones connecting to their servers.
Just Use Email – How to Use Email for Everything
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> I can interact with anybody with an e-mail address Why is that a good thing? My email is full of spam both literal and mundane (email notification from stuff I only occasionally care about like CI or products). My Messenger account has zero noise because I can't be contacted by companies - only friends I've chosen to let in.
You can very, very easily filter email in the same way to get the same result. Just because companies haven't invaded WhatsApp yet doesn't mean they aren't trying, they are, and they already invaded everywhere else. Hell Facebook and Instagram is an advertisers wet dream.
Not as easily as just using a tool that doesn't need any configuration to avoid spam. And it's disingenuous to say that email spam can just be filtered out to get an experience that is as spam-free as Messenger.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I can interact with anybody with an e-mail address Why is that a good thing? My email is full of spam both literal and mundane (email notification from stuff I only occasionally care about like CI or products). My Messenger account has zero noise because I can't be contacted by companies - only friends I've chosen to let in.
There’s nothing preventing you from automatically filtering those emails. All of my GitHub / CI emails go straight to a subfolder. All spam gets added to filters, etc. Depending on the registrar you use, you can set up a 2nd inbox or aliases for junk mail and filter anything that goes to those, etc.
You're coming from a position that email is good and it's worth configuring it to work well. But I don't particularly like email. I have zero interest in setting up aliases or filters when the problem simply doesn't exist when I use a better tool.
Re: Just Use Email – How to Use Email for Everything
#134email is almsot useless for social networks. they now req. phone
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#135I don’t want to dismiss the author’s point. But here is a related point:
Choosing what tool to communicate is a social decision, not a personal one. You can’t prove the tool X is more effective way to communicate by just using it yourself.
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But those are problems with /the client/. Not the protocol.
They are all problems with the protocol, considering that the protocol doesn't define how to do any of this.
Then should we not amend the protocol to define these things? Why reinvent the wheel, when we could improve it?
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s nothing preventing you from automatically filtering those emails. All of my GitHub / CI emails go straight to a subfolder. All spam gets added to filters, etc. Depending on the registrar you use, you can set up a 2nd inbox or aliases for junk mail and filter anything that goes to those, etc.
You're coming from a position that email is good and it's worth configuring it to work well. But I don't particularly like email. I have zero interest in setting up aliases or filters when the problem simply doesn't exist when I use a better tool.
This doesn't make much sense to me. We're talking about functionality (being contacted by companies or automated processes) that doesn't exist at all in Messenger. You can't say it's the better tool in this case when it makes no attempt to compete with that feature.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s nothing preventing you from automatically filtering those emails. All of my GitHub / CI emails go straight to a subfolder. All spam gets added to filters, etc. Depending on the registrar you use, you can set up a 2nd inbox or aliases for junk mail and filter anything that goes to those, etc.
You're coming from a position that email is good and it's worth configuring it to work well. But I don't particularly like email. I have zero interest in setting up aliases or filters when the problem simply doesn't exist when I use a better tool.
So your messenger app read your mind?
Pretty sure you create a whitelist on that too, yes?
Of phone numbers, usernames, or …email addresses… depending on what the app uses, that you wish to hear from?
Check out Spike for IOS. I’m not saying you have to USE it, but that it’s a UX problem, not an “email” problem.
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#140I'm on the exact opposite end of the spectrum. I haven't used email outside of work for many years now, and don't miss it one bit. And even at work most communication now happens on Slack. The digital world has evolved since 1997, and email simply hasn't kept up. I skimmed a couple articles on the blog and my biggest problem with it is that the author is making a social rather than technological argument (which are a…
The problem is just a presentation one.
Email is thought of as grandpas business tool.
Look at Spike for IOS.
Messengers are just whitelisted users. Email providers or clients simply provide a shit interface for managing that list.
To me it’s like that story about NASA spending millions on a zero gravity pen when Russian astronauts just used pencil.
Someone was looking to impress people with their spam filtering code and never thought “maybe I can just drop all by default and only allow who I want?”