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Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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post #111

Put in an old DVD of Dr. Strangelove:... recently in the XBox. It was just a random thought to pop it in and enjoy. (okay, was cleaning up shelf) I eventually realized I could skip around and enjoy the parts I liked. Freely. Without that feeling of being watched. Flashback.

Is your XBox online? Are you sure the DVD player doesn't report back what you're watching and how you're watching it?

Fair question.

This is exhausting.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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I don't know how common this is, but I've gotten into the habit of creating "personas"-- different users that have different habits and are interested in different things, yet all me. It's insane that I feel it helpful to take on "multiple personalities", but there it is. Part of it is that these algorithms are fairly one-track. They can mix it up a bit, but it's always too much of one thing and too little of another…

It’s a pretty natural human thing to do (see also: “code switching”) so I wouldn’t feel too bad :)

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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You should abstain from googling politically incorrect ideas. It is possible that the state will require searches for for politically incorrect content be logged and used to create a profile on possible dissidents.

Not an unreasonable concern. Remember Google's Project Dragonfly? They were building and testing a system which would not only censor Google Search in mainland China, but provide Communist Party authorities with unlimited access to search logs.

They only stopped because they got caught, and enough Google employees caused a stir about it internally. The executives who supported this project and kept its existence secret within Google are still with the company. Who's to say they won't try again, in China or any other country?

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/29/google-china-censored-se...

>Locating core parts of the search system on the Chinese mainland meant that people’s search records would be easily accessible to China’s authoritarian government, which has broad surveillance powers that it routinely deploys to target activists, journalists, and political opponents.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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I don't log in to anything google related, I have youtube/google stuff containerized and when I close my browser window it clears all my history and cookies, etc. I surf with ublock on and max privacy settings in the browser.

I use YouTube via RSS. My quality of life is incredible.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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I'm mildly curious about the whole Jordan Peterson anti-woke movement. Mildly, as in, I'm interested in the arguments but I often don't agree with them. I once made the mistake of clicking on a Peterson YouTube video and subsequently got only obscene alt-right "Peterson KILLS stupid feminist reporter!!" type of edited content. Like at some point 80% of my suggestions was crap like that, drowning out all the lovely ne…

I think that in the future, having a way to tell the algorithm "I didn't like this" will be common courtesy. Especially as the algorithm becomes stronger, I.E. companies offload more and more curation to ML.

On YouTube, this exists. On the Home screen where you get video recommendations, you can mouse-over each video title, click the little three dots, and mark that you're not interested in a video or channel. They'll never show up again in your recommendations.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And the people who are into it are generally really into it, so they'll keep watching hour after hour of it. Maybe that's the effect and not the cause.

I see it as a self-sustaining loop at this point. At some point the flames were lit and fanned, and now they've taken on a life of their own.

It'd make a good The Onion headline "AI Accidentally Resurrects Fascism."

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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post #128

You should abstain from googling politically incorrect ideas. It is possible that the state will require searches for for politically incorrect content be logged and used to create a profile on possible dissidents.

What country do you live in?

No idea what country they’re in, but the US government’s already logging such things:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/can-government-look-yo...

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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It's annoying clicking some youtube link only to find it was something you really don't want more of, and then youtube proceed to recommend much more of it, even though you barely watched any of it. kinda forces me to watch something else that is new but at least somewhat wanted in an attempt to make the algorithm look at the new shiny i'm interested in and forget the previous one. i find it funny though when amazon…

you can mark the recommendaitons as not interesting, likely to fix it up pretty quick.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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post #111

Put in an old DVD of Dr. Strangelove:... recently in the XBox. It was just a random thought to pop it in and enjoy. (okay, was cleaning up shelf) I eventually realized I could skip around and enjoy the parts I liked. Freely. Without that feeling of being watched. Flashback.

I sometimes want to rewatch a funny scene, but the fear of having to sit through a 2min ad on Hulu after I press the back button outweighs the few seconds of joy I'd get from that scene. Nor is it worth the money to upgrade.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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Honest question: Why are you logged into Google?

If you must use gmail, use imap. The only other “sticky” service they offer (that benefits from a login) is docs. So, use some other office suite, or keep a separate browser installed just for docs.

Problem solved, I think.

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