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Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

#131

Yahoo employee. AMA

Who will be hosting verizon.net email accounts, held by Frontier customers?

My parents have an old Verizon DSL account, and their email got moved to yahoo, but the address still has verizon.net

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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post #89

A headline with 5G but not a single mention of it in the article. If any insider from Verizon may be could help explain why their insistence on mmWave 5G for Phones. ( And Phone only, not fixed Wireless internet access ) It doesn't make sense to me when the spec (3GPP) were announced, doesn't make sense when Verizon actually announced it, and still doesn't make any sense when they are now up and running. Both from a…

mmWave is a tool to cope with network capacity concerns far into the future. It's in its infancy right now but the ability to provide multiple gigabits over the air in certain high-traffic locations can help greatly. We're running out of midband spectrum that can provide good indoor/outdoor coverage and so it's best to look to much higher frequencies that don't have any major incumbent users to satisfy those capacity needs.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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post #3

Why would Verizon want to keep a minority stake in Yahoo? Seems useless to me.

Yahoo has large and growing customers (example: DuckDuckGo)

I thought that DDG was getting its data from Bing... but either way, Yahoo was getting its data from Microsoft.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define "gut up". Why would Apollo want to destroy the asset they just bought?

Venture Capital firms love to use throw debt at an asset so that they can have a cash windfall. The result is that the assets can never pay off the debt and end up declaring bankruptcy. See K-Mart, Sears, Toys R' Us, and anything that a vulture capitalist touches.

Yes, but you're thinking of private equity.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised Twitter hasn't been interested in Yahoo Finance and Yahoo sports apps. The onboarding into Twitter, integration with tweets would be worth billions. A lot of "regular people" use those apps, and Twitter investors are looking for the user growth. Also, if Twitter is going to become a platform for interests/topics, it would be good to have a couple of standalone apps on some core topics.

However when doing that Twitter won't be "neutral" regarding news sources. That might reduce interest of other media to use them ...

Twitter already isn't neutral, considering the "trending" feed is editorialized and certain trends are suppressed and others boosted.

Twitter is a publisher. They have their fingers on the scale in both directions in multiple places.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really believe Apollo won’t gut up Yahoo and AOL or some other situation where any leftover spirit of the entities isn’t mostly gone? This is better than remaining with Verizon since they don’t want to deal with such small stuff. Here’s hoping things end up better for assets.

Define "gut up". Why would Apollo want to destroy the asset they just bought?

The same reason a scrapyard buys broken cars?

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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post #89

A headline with 5G but not a single mention of it in the article. If any insider from Verizon may be could help explain why their insistence on mmWave 5G for Phones. ( And Phone only, not fixed Wireless internet access ) It doesn't make sense to me when the spec (3GPP) were announced, doesn't make sense when Verizon actually announced it, and still doesn't make any sense when they are now up and running. Both from a…

For the same reason Sprint went all in on WiMAX "4G" about ten years back: they think it gives them a value-add.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

#138
post #92

Yahoo employee. AMA

What are the modern tech Stack behind Yahoo? Still have any FreeBSD running? Do Yahoo actually use Vespa [1] for their search engine? [1] https://vespa.ai

I worked at Yahoo Travel until 2011. When I left, transition to Linux was in full swing. If there's any FreeBSD left, the host count has got to be tiny by now. Running two OSes is a pain, and Linux has bigger mindshare, so there you go.

Vespa was extensively used for vertical search when I was there. Things like content search inside Travel, Local, Finance, Shopping, etc... was either Vespa or a predicessor. I don't think Vespa was used for the general internet search engine, but may have been used for some of the side queries that happen at the same time.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

#139
post #92

Yahoo employee. AMA

What are the modern tech Stack behind Yahoo? Still have any FreeBSD running? Do Yahoo actually use Vespa [1] for their search engine? [1] https://vespa.ai

> What are the modern tech Stack behind Yahoo?

Too big to generalise. Shared tech stacks would be hard to call modern, but various tech stacks within teams were better. The more worthwhile stuff is open sourced (Athenz, Screwdriver) but there is a lot of shit internally, in varying stages of "deprecated but still the defacto solution".

> Still have any FreeBSD running?

I mean, there's probably some freebsd 7 hosts _somewhere_ and some of the internal tech stack supports it, but mostly it's RHEL6 when I left with a presumably-completed-by-now RHEL7 migration planned.

> Do Yahoo actually use Vespa [1] for their search engine?

Can't comment on search, but a partner team to my old team did.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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post #89

A headline with 5G but not a single mention of it in the article. If any insider from Verizon may be could help explain why their insistence on mmWave 5G for Phones. ( And Phone only, not fixed Wireless internet access ) It doesn't make sense to me when the spec (3GPP) were announced, doesn't make sense when Verizon actually announced it, and still doesn't make any sense when they are now up and running. Both from a…

As with many things, 5g will be worth it once they stop marketing it.
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