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Re: History of Techno

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Post by aasasd »

tmearnest wrote: post #101

I've been listening to techno (not EDM in general, Techno) since the 90s. It's definitely my favorite music for deep work; something about the tight repetitive loops is just perfect for concentration. Since the pandemic started I've been listening to techno mixes almost constantly in order to mask the noise from everyone else in my house. Initially, I found it difficult to find decent mixes since Techno has become a…

‘Techno Live Sets’ are good at long mixes in the genre, though they do delve into house regularly: https://www.techno-livesets.com

(IIRC they were on Mixcloud previously, but parted ways for some reason.)

Re: History of Techno

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Post by senorjazz »

tbronchain wrote: post #30

Techno finds its roots in tribal music. Its repetitive patterns allow deep self-reflection and strong connection to inner feelings. disclaimer: I love techno

> Techno finds its roots in tribal music

Not really. Not in the in sense of where the music came from. I'd agree on an enjoyment level it taps into something similar. But the roots of the genre as far as I am aware owe nothing to tribal music.

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Post by spiralx »

tmearnest wrote: post #101

I've been listening to techno (not EDM in general, Techno) since the 90s. It's definitely my favorite music for deep work; something about the tight repetitive loops is just perfect for concentration. Since the pandemic started I've been listening to techno mixes almost constantly in order to mask the noise from everyone else in my house. Initially, I found it difficult to find decent mixes since Techno has become a…

I've got about 40 or so playlists on SoundCloud for individual techno DJs I like, as well as a couple for general techno mixes - they're all the ones with "techno" in the title :) You'll find a some overlap with the artists in your playlist in fact, I've got playlists for Ben Sims, The Advent and Drumcell that I found in the first minute of scrolling through it.

What sort of techno do you prefer? The artists I've got are mostly the tougher end of European techno, there's also some Detroit techno, acid techno and hard techno/schranz. You can look at my likes for my favourites...

https://soundcloud.com/spiralx/sets

I've also been into techno since the 90s and it's still my favourite thing in the world :) The combination of relentless kick drum and the constantly changing synths and percussion never fails to draw me in. It manages to sooth my ADHD with the constant heartbeat of the kick drum while the constant progression of everything else serves to keep my attention from wondering off after a few bars.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by mdbauman »

senorjazz wrote: post #129
mqp wrote: post #117

I'm pleased to see accuracy in the history of techno. I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community. These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support. Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WpudasPafg Good documentary on the origins of house and techno from 70s disco, to 4 to the floor disco and the coming of the 808, how this moved to house in chicago and some sci fi nerds with a love for kraftwerk in detroit started techno. Then how the UK got involved and these DJs from the US, used to playing to 50-80 people in tiny underground, often gay clubs would come to the UK a…

For anyone seeing the copyright claim and wondering what this was, it seems to be a BBC documentary called Can You Feel It - How Dance Music Conquered the World. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11719632/

Re: History of Techno

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

anthk wrote: post #104
CPLX wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This was the era when in the US Eminem had lines like "nobody listens to techno", while in Europe Perhaps it will add a little context to note that Eminem, like Techno, is from Detroit.

Yeah, but everyone was listening to Eurotrance and pre-hardbass here in 2000. Spain, 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH9W5LRcVzk Meanwhile, the US got the shittiest EDM ever in 2010-2011 as something "revolutionary". You kickstarted the acid house genre, but you let it rot in the dust in the 90's. We Europeans had a huge underground fanbase since late 80's, and since mid-90's trance has been huge for example in…

North American techno fan for almost 30 years here.

Europe had an _audience_ for techno, yes but also an audience for some of the cheesiest garbage dance music on the planet.

Don't lecture us -- Detroit and Chicago are the heart and soul of techno & house, even if the artists from there weren't always appreciated at home.

Europe has been exporting its garbage trance and progressive crap since the late 80s. Soul driven techno from African-American artists had a way of being exported over to Europe, absorbed by the locals, and shipped back as soulless amphetamine driven crap.

Electronic music in Europe has always been a huge industry, and some amazing music made... but as a % of product produced/consumed.. only a small amount of it was good (which amounted to a lot of excellent records in an absolute ocean of other junk.)

Back in the day there was an amazing amount of quality underground music coming out of Chicago, New York, Detroit / Windsor, and smaller centres in the midwest, too. Great stuff even from here in Toronto. The west coast was an entirely other story, mostly dominated by "funky breaks" and trance and stuff I didn't like.

Also I can't tell from your tone if the YouTube video you posted is made to be made fun of, or enjoyed? Because to me it's clearly the former. The kind of shit that teenage kids at raves back in the 90s would take meth to and grind their teeth and we'd just gag at.

Yes, we had all that crap here back in the mid-90s. Huge raves, mostly crap. EDM is just what the next generation called it, and I guess maybe it had a broader audience.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by mmmmmk »

zwp wrote: post #125
kristopolous wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think my main contention can be illustrated by trying to discover where Disco comes from. I was looking for this kind of shoestring style story for years. Then I gave up trying to construct it. The reality is it's a bunch of things smashed together like pressing all the buttons at the soda fountain at once. That's what happened. That's where techno came from as well. Sometimes the narratives are super clean, like r…

Thanks for your great contributions in this thread. Can you please help me understand "rock is super messy"? The traditional narrative is "rock was mostly derived from blues (+ some other influences)" but the counter(?)example you provided is a classic 12 bar blues. Do you have some messier examples? Or did I miss your point?

The book, The Seventh Stream, by Phil Ennis is a good resource to understand the origins of rock. It is a lot more complicated than just the blues.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by partomniscient »

underlines wrote: post #92

Does anyone remember the iconic Ishkur's guide to electronic dance music V2.5? The famous original is still hosted as flash here: http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ And after more than a decade the update V3: https://music.ishkur.com/

Yes indeed. I actually went looking for it to post here and remembered it was a flash blob, and wondered whether it still existed? I didn't remember who posted it or where, just what it looked like back in the day. Glad you mentioned it otherwise I might still be looking.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by anthk »

mqp wrote: post #117

I'm pleased to see accuracy in the history of techno. I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community. These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support. Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly…

White European here (Spain).

Black people in the US invented basically the three modern music roots:

- Blues/Rock

- Techno

- Rap

The problem is rap had much better marketing in the US, ditto with rhythm and blues in the 90's.

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